Can someone convince me why we should stay in it ? We seem to pay alot in yet get nothing out of it ( except been told how we cant do this or that , even told to give inmates the choice of voting ) . Now im far from a racists , so its not a case of " not letting them in " its more the way we are been told what to do by people who have not even lived here , never will, yet tell us how to live !
the only problem of europe is that they are getting to much economical weak countries in, rumania, bulgaria etc... that costs us the most money i think
The main problem is that as soon as a new country is allowed to join the European union, then they are allowed to come here(or anywhere else in Europe) and get the same benefits as us(or better), which drains our resources. I think though, that although a lot of the laws brought in by Brussels are ridiculous, and out of touch with the different needs of individual countries, there are certain laws, (workers rights for example and the maximum working week) that are good, and without them our Industrial leaders would REALLY take the piss when it comes to dealing with employees.
britain as a country is far from great anymore and this is solely because of the EU now im far from hating any race but the goverment in this country has bent over the barrel and let brussels ram it right up their arses. britain should go back to what it was and decide our own rules, not let some over payed MEP decide everything for us!! the best of it all is that us mugs pay for these arseholes to decide that a banana is too straight!!! now forgive me if im wrong but in the grand scheme of things i couldnt give a fuck how straight a fucking banana is!!!! or the metric V`s imperial measurements
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[quote="maclufc"], there are certain laws, (workers rights for example and the maximum working week) that are good, and without them our Industrial leaders would REALLY take the piss when it comes to dealing with employees.[/quote] this is what shut my old work down! we worked as much as we wanted and we were well rewarded for it, then this stupid law come in and my work closed after 150 years of trading!! good old EU
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I may be wrong but wasnt there or is a european law, that anyone made redundant gets so many weeks redundancy pay ? a law which we dont adhere to ? If we had the euro then id say yes , but without it , i just dont understand why we pay so much in , I just dont seem to see any benifit of staying in Europe no more . Tho the Kinnock family would disagree !!! ( having slated europe for many years !!!)
[quote="IBC"]I may be wrong but wasnt there or is a european law, that anyone made redundant gets so many weeks redundancy pay ? a law which we dont adhere to ? If we had the euro then id say yes , but without it , i just dont understand why we pay so much in , I just dont seem to see any benifit of staying in Europe no more . Tho the Kinnock family would disagree !!! ( having slated europe for many years !!!) [/quote] its the british way man, pay too much in and get fuck all out!! RIP OFF BRITAIN!!! its engrained in our goverment now so we will need to live with it!
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[quote="derekw"]this is what shut my old work down! we worked as much as we wanted and we were well rewarded for it, then this stupid law come in and my work closed after 150 years of trading!! good old EU[/quote] there was an option to opt out though, they just could nt force you to work more than 48 hours
[quote="maclufc"][quote="derekw"]this is what shut my old work down! we worked as much as we wanted and we were well rewarded for it, then this stupid law come in and my work closed after 150 years of trading!! good old EU[/quote] there was an option to opt out though, they just could nt force you to work more than 48 hours[/quote] i know that but when we opted out of it the liability insurance went up from 850K to nearly 2 million quid and my employer couldnt take that so we were put on 3 months notice and the place is now housesall down to the EU!! i thank you brussels!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm no expert but we seem to get the shitty end of the stick when it comes to Europe , the shit parts we take on board I.E allowing every man and his dog into britian to open carwash and pickpocket normal working folk,and the decent things in Europe ,cheaper tax ,beer , fags and other laws we seem to miss out on. All they want is to pump money into the so- called poorer countries when we say we are billions in debt , in years to come we will be a poor country and Poland bulgeria will be flourishing with all the money we have handed over! (forgot petrol prices)