Hello your through to PC World Techinical Support can I help you? yes Mr I cant find the net, Ok let me help you firstly whats your name????? Mr F torres!!!!!!!!!!!
[quote="casualcol"][quote="DAVPEALING"]nothin worse than that judas[/quote]
I take it Andy Carroll is a judas for leaving Newcastle then too?
Have you got Channel 5 for next season sorted yet?[/quote]
Read the facts Andy Carroll was sold by newcastle not the other way round he was told they accepted a bid for him whereas mr torres sulked for 3 months to get his move only 12 months ear;ier sayin hed never join another british club. No problem with the lad joinin a club goin for things but to be fair chelsea look pisspoor and r an ageing team didnt give dagleish a chance. For example Mascharano to barcelona i have no problem with the lads family couldnt settle here at all dont get me wrong he forced it thru but for fucksake its barcelona. also xabi alonso to real madrid the biggest club in the world so you cant argue especially after hed been treated by mr benitez. I go all the games mate!!!!!!!!!! dont need 5 who do u support ?????????
[quote="DAVPEALING"][quote="casualcol"][quote="DAVPEALING"]nothin worse than that judas[/quote]
I take it Andy Carroll is a judas for leaving Newcastle then too?
Have you got Channel 5 for next season sorted yet?[/quote]
Read the facts Andy Carroll was sold by newcastle not the other way round.
Well I know footballers are well paid but Carroll was hardly going to sell Newcastle was he? Few more years of Europa league football against St Patricks Athletic and Motherwell and Carroll and Suarez will be wanting out too. And shur look if you don't have Channel 5, I'd suggest the History Channel!
Don't get the 'judas' thing - since when have Liverpool and Chelsea been rivals? Out of interest if a bigger firm offered you work for more pay would you leave your job even if a year earlier you'd told your boss you were really enjoying your work? People forget these guys are professionals, why should Torres or any other foreign player have an allegiance to an English club?
[quote="DAVPEALING"][quote="casualcol"][quote="DAVPEALING"]nothin worse than that judas[/quote]
I take it Andy Carroll is a judas for leaving Newcastle then too?
Have you got Channel 5 for next season sorted yet?[/quote]
Read the facts Andy Carroll was sold by newcastle not the other way round he was told they accepted a bid for him whereas mr torres sulked for 3 months to get his move only 12 months ear;ier sayin hed never join another british club. No problem with the lad joinin a club goin for things but to be fair chelsea look pisspoor and r an ageing team didnt give dagleish a chance. For example Mascharano to barcelona i have no problem with the lads family couldnt settle here at all dont get me wrong he forced it thru but for fucksake its barcelona. also xabi alonso to real madrid the biggest club in the world so you cant argue especially after hed been treated by mr benitez. I go all the games mate!!!!!!!!!! dont need 5 who do u support ????????? [/quote]
well, looking at your statement, I'll set Andy Carroll aside for a second as I'll deal with the hard and fast.
Joining a 'piss poor Chelsea' eh? A team with a regular proven trophy winning record in recent years, double winners last year, champions League last 8 virtually every season since 2004. You're right - he could have stayed at Anfield and admired all your history and waited on the next yank owner coming across on all his promises of investment.
Give Dalglish a chance? So, he should have stayed for a temporary manager? A man who might not be in charge next season but you think he should have given him a chance and foregone the opportunity for a move? Yeah, right......
Masherano and Alonso. a touch pompous there don't you think. So, your players can only join teams you think are 'on a par with' or 'better' than Liverpool. Hysterical. "How dare someone leave us and join those chavs from West London...." Get over yourself sunshine. You ain't won the league since Brian Keenan was tied to a radiator in Lebanon.
You think you've mugged us off with Torres? That's exactly why you scousers don't get it. We've an owner who'll waste 50 million if that's how it turns out - and still come back with plenty more. For all the doom mongers prophesies, he's still there, 7 years on, spending big. And that's what the modern game is about unfortunately. Investment. Now, when your current Yank spends 50 million on a player of his own wedge, maybe that'll be a statement of intent. Of his ambition. Of your standing in the current game. Until then, there will be plenty of players ready to pile through the Shankly gates to take moves to us, Utd, Citeh, etc....so you may get used to it.
Or alternatively, you and your mates can always go back to watching your betamax videos of Brucies wobbly legs and digger barnes in his prime.
"The nightmares invading the sleep of Bayern fans involve four horsemen of the Champions League Apocalypse riding towards them. As the faces come into focus, they will recognise Frank Lampard, Cole, Petr Cech and Drogba. All were immense..."
[quote="RamseesCFC"][quote="DAVPEALING"][quote="casualcol"][quote="DAVPEALING"]nothin worse than that judas[/quote]
I take it Andy Carroll is a judas for leaving Newcastle then too?
Have you got Channel 5 for next season sorted yet?[/quote]
Read the facts Andy Carroll was sold by newcastle not the other way round he was told they accepted a bid for him whereas mr torres sulked for 3 months to get his move only 12 months ear;ier sayin hed never join another british club. No problem with the lad joinin a club goin for things but to be fair chelsea look pisspoor and r an ageing team didnt give dagleish a chance. For example Mascharano to barcelona i have no problem with the lads family couldnt settle here at all dont get me wrong he forced it thru but for fucksake its barcelona. also xabi alonso to real madrid the biggest club in the world so you cant argue especially after hed been treated by mr benitez. I go all the games mate!!!!!!!!!! dont need 5 who do u support ????????? [/quote]
well, looking at your statement, I'll set Andy Carroll aside for a second as I'll deal with the hard and fast.
Joining a 'piss poor Chelsea' eh? A team with a regular proven trophy winning record in recent years, double winners last year, champions League last 8 virtually every season since 2004. You're right - he could have stayed at Anfield and admired all your history and waited on the next yank owner coming across on all his promises of investment.
Give Dalglish a chance? So, he should have stayed for a temporary manager? A man who might not be in charge next season but you think he should have given him a chance and foregone the opportunity for a move? Yeah, right......
Masherano and Alonso. a touch pompous there don't you think. So, your players can only join teams you think are 'on a par with' or 'better' than Liverpool. Hysterical. "How dare someone leave us and join those chavs from West London...." Get over yourself sunshine. You ain't won the league since Brian Keenan was tied to a radiator in Lebanon.
You think you've mugged us off with Torres? That's exactly why you scousers don't get it. We've an owner who'll waste 50 million if that's how it turns out - and still come back with plenty more. For all the doom mongers prophesies, he's still there, 7 years on, spending big. And that's what the modern game is about unfortunately. Investment. Now, when your current Yank spends 50 million on a player of his own wedge, maybe that'll be a statement of intent. Of his ambition. Of your standing in the current game. Until then, there will be plenty of players ready to pile through the Shankly gates to take moves to us, Utd, Citeh, etc....so you may get used to it.
Or alternatively, you and your mates can always go back to watching your betamax videos of Brucies wobbly legs and digger barnes in his prime.
Ill answer as many as i can here ! Chelsea are not r rivals he said he wouldnt join another british team then went back on his word and turned unfortunately players heads do get turned money its hard not to but dont come out with big quotes in his book!!!! Why leave your future in a temporary manager is a fair point but lets be honest is ancelotti a stable manager i think hell be gone at the end of the season rightly or wrongly. Your owner will deffo waste another 50 million no problem hes got it and ive got no problem with teams spendin it lets be fair all big teams spend money to win things use arent the first and use wont be the last Ive got no problem with chelsea just torres for turnin on us he was treated as one of us maybe like John Terry for use whether hes british or not doesnt change the fact. But to be fair dont quote european competitions over the last years mate weve been to two finals won 1 lost 1 youve been to 1 and lost so use arent miles ahead there mate and were on the decline and havent been innit this season and wont be next. I dont think were on par with barcelona, real madrid there bigger clubs with a guaranteed chance of winning the league champions league like i stated use arent at all as shown by your current position in the league and your ageing squad. I can go back to watchin videos of european cup final wins but i can also see them on dvd when use bottled it in 2005 money cant buy your club class unfortunately
oh yeah and dont think i think we got a good deal out of torres the boys world class mate give him pre season and watch him go cant believe people are writing him off am just enjoyin his misery for now thats it hope it cleared everythin up
I can go back to watchin videos of european cup final wins but i can also see them on dvd when use bottled it in 2005 money cant buy your club class unfortunately [/quote]
Liverpool fan talking about class? The irony.
Tell you what, why don't you kill a few more innocent Italians while you're at it, thought that was classy.
Class is being founder by a member of the odious Orange Order, that must make you proud.
Class is booing minute silences left, right and centre - George Best, Brian Clough, Busby - the irony being Liverpool would mourn a dead fucking chicken and like to think they have some sort monopoly on grief
Class is smashing up toilets at Old Trafford time and time again.....I guess unrinals can't hit back
Class is throwing plastic cups of shit on Man U fans underneath you at Anfield - must have watched 2 girls one cup you lot....genius that was
Class is robbing tickets out of the hands of your fellow fans to gain entry to a cup final in Athens
Class is rocking an ambulance with a player who has a broken leg inside....
Class is when your firm are nasty blade weilding merchants (Stanley Knife park) - a trade mark of Scouse firms
Class is the self acclaimed best fans in the world burning shirts with their captain's name on it outside the Shankly gates...
Class is begging every Sheikh in the middle east to come and rescue you from the yanks....bet that would have made John Houlding proud (your orange order founder)
To be fair mate youve stepped way over the line of the debate there which had nothin to do with you but if you wanna go down the mighty man u high and mighty road SO BE IT
CLASS IS SPRAY PAINTIN A DEAD MAN CITY PLAYER NAME ON A PUB THATS CLASSY REAL MATURE
CLASS IS CALLIN OTHER TEAMS MURDERERS YET CRY WHEN MUNICH IS MENTIONED
CLASS IS BEING THE 2ND TEAM IN YOUR OWN CITY
CLASS IS BEIN CHASED BY THE 2ND TEAM IN LIVERPOOL DOWN SCOTTY ROAD WHERE WAS THE MIGHTY YET HARD FIRM THERE oh yeah there was 2 many of them they were comin from everywhere
CLASS IS HATING THE GLAZERS BUT YET STILL GO THE GAME
CLASS IS SINGING ABOUT LEEDS DEAD FANS
CLASS IS SINGIN WE HATE SCOUSERS YET YOUR MAIN PLAYERS ONE HOW IRONIC YET STUPID
I mite not like man u fans when i go the game but i respect ones outside of the match who know a bit about the footy and stuff and can get past this whole danny dyer complex man u v liverpool on a forum mate time to grow up am sure you chased way back in your day mate hahahahahhahahahahah
[quote="DAVPEALING"]To be fair mate youve stepped way over the line of the debate there which had nothin to do with you but if you wanna go down the mighty man u high and mighty road SO BE IT
ain't stepped out of line at all, you were being a condescending a hole, simple as that. And I don't even support United. Just pointing out a few home truths.
Can I ask you this? Does it make you proud supporting a club founded by a member of the Orange Order?
but sayin justice for heysel is sound i gather?????????????? you dont support man u yet you seem to know an awful lot about what weve done to them mate whats the fasination, i wernt beeen condescending i was havin a bit of banter mate your the one callin us muderers and all kinds who do you support mate as your so high and mighty and obsessed by us
[quote="DAVPEALING"]Ill answer as many as i can here ! Chelsea are not r rivals he said he wouldnt join another british team then went back on his word and turned unfortunately players heads do get turned money its hard not to but dont come out with big quotes in his book!!!! Why leave your future in a temporary manager is a fair point but lets be honest is ancelotti a stable manager i think hell be gone at the end of the season rightly or wrongly. Your owner will deffo waste another 50 million no problem hes got it and ive got no problem with teams spendin it lets be fair all big teams spend money to win things use arent the first and use wont be the last Ive got no problem with chelsea just torres for turnin on us he was treated as one of us maybe like John Terry for use whether hes british or not doesnt change the fact. But to be fair dont quote european competitions over the last years mate weve been to two finals won 1 lost 1 youve been to 1 and lost so use arent miles ahead there mate and were on the decline and havent been innit this season and wont be next. I dont think were on par with barcelona, real madrid there bigger clubs with a guaranteed chance of winning the league champions league like i stated use arent at all as shown by your current position in the league and your ageing squad. I can go back to watchin videos of european cup final wins but i can also see them on dvd when use bottled it in 2005 money cant buy your club class unfortunately [/quote]
I've no problem with you being annoyed at Torres. It's a bitter one to swallow regardless of how well or not it turns out for us. I am surprised in some quarters by the reaction from your lot and I've been told repeatedly that Chelsea don't count in terms of teams who you consider (hated) rivals yet the reaction to this deal has been hyperbole. I think if you're honest, whilst some may see Carlos position as unstable, when this deal was going through he was the reigning double winner manager, Champions League winner twice, top pedrigree in otherwords. I wouldn't have or do regard his position as unstable. I think he'll be there next season no sweat. But some players wont..... To be fair mate - read my post again. I never mentioned European Trophies did I? I said trophies. That's 1 double, 3 leagues, 3 FA Cups, 2 league cups and 5 Champions League semi-finals - all since 2004. I think that's fair to say that's a team that challenges at the business end of things. You suggest Real madrid is a guaranteed chance of winning the Champions League - presumably better than us? strange that given this year is there first appearance in the Q-F in 7 years. Time will tell if we're on the decline. I prefer to put it down to lack of squad depth from the off which meant we couldn't cope with losing the complete spine of the team for a long period (what team does?). We've had a rubbish season and still look likely to finish in the top 4 well ahead of you. And by the way, Ramires and Luiz are both youngsters and with more to come in the summer - you still think the decline will last? as for 2005, you say bottled it. I say given we'd won the league and league cup we fell just short at the semi-final stage in Europe. Even Fergie said to win a treble you need a lot of luck. On the flip side, you'd have plenty of time to focus on Europe that season given you were out of everything else from January and ended 37 points behind us in the league. it's unfortunate you ended on the 'class' note as most people still have the treatment of Roy Hodgson fresh in the memory. The Liverpool way? you can keep it mate. all yours. I'm happy in the knowledge that our 'real' support followed the team in droves when we were sh1t - Div 2, relegation yo-yo-ing. 1 season half way down the Premier League and you're ready to hang the manager. Yeah, needless to say mate, I don't regard the 'Liverpool Way' as all that
"The nightmares invading the sleep of Bayern fans involve four horsemen of the Champions League Apocalypse riding towards them. As the faces come into focus, they will recognise Frank Lampard, Cole, Petr Cech and Drogba. All were immense..."
[quote="DAVPEALING"]but sayin justice for heysel is sound i gather?????????????? you dont support man u yet you seem to know an awful lot about what weve done to them mate whats the fasination, i wernt beeen condescending i was havin a bit of banter mate your the one callin us muderers and all kinds who do you support mate as your so high and mighty and obsessed by us[/quote]
I'm ending my input into this thread now, way too much shite spouted by you and I'm not interested. Seen forums ruined over nonsense like this and I have too much respect for this forum to indulge in similar behaviour.
[quote="casualcol"][quote="DAVPEALING"]but sayin justice for heysel is sound i gather?????????????? you dont support man u yet you seem to know an awful lot about what weve done to them mate whats the fasination, i wernt beeen condescending i was havin a bit of banter mate your the one callin us muderers and all kinds who do you support mate as your so high and mighty and obsessed by us[/quote]
I'm ending my input into this thread now, way too much shite spouted by you and I'm not interested. Seen forums ruined over nonsense like this and I have too much respect for this forum to indulge in similar behaviour.
Ta ra.[/quote]
Get on you takin the high road mate it had nothin to do with u at all you got involved started mentionin football disasters then realised you were out of order now changed my name into your profile you sure ur gonna be ok you keep forgettin to mention what team u support i wonder why? if you did have respect for this forum you woudnt have came out with the justice for heysel mate absolute disgrace to be honest whether i was a liverpool fan or not
I do personally think your in the decline, luiz is quality and sturridge is lookin better and better at bolton but i think you need a lot of players as the squad is ageing just my opinion . Its the way torres done it mate is why weve gone hyperbole with it especially in his book el nino mate its sickening am not sayin he will be the first to do it to us and deffo not the last but he had a special affiniation with our support literally 70 to 80 mins of the game his name would be sung through thick and thin so thats why the hatred is there for him mate. But fair play mate the way we treated hodgeson was pretty poor i agree dont get me wrong im one of his biggest critics hes at his level but the way we turned by songs etc wasnt the liverpool way i mite be a red but i try to be an honest red ha
[quote="DAVPEALING"]I do personally think your in the decline, luiz is quality and sturridge is lookin better and better at bolton but i think you need a lot of players as the squad is ageing just my opinion . Its the way torres done it mate is why weve gone hyperbole with it especially in his book el nino mate its sickening am not sayin he will be the first to do it to us and deffo not the last but he had a special affiniation with our support literally 70 to 80 mins of the game his name would be sung through thick and thin so thats why the hatred is there for him mate. But fair play mate the way we treated hodgeson was pretty poor i agree dont get me wrong im one of his biggest critics hes at his level but the way we turned by songs etc wasnt the liverpool way i mite be a red but i try to be an honest red ha[/quote]
I think the problem is mate, most of us cling to the idea that some form of loyalty exists nowadays where the truth is that in 99% of cases it doesn't. We were lucky to see Zola who was one of those 1% and I think Lamps only considered moving because he found it hard after his mother died. Otherwise, he would nevered consider it. JT? who knows. The Man City rumours were strong enough. And possibly we'd have reacted badly to him moving there. Unfortunately, it's the modern game. I always recall Damian Duff saying he never took the move to Spurs because "he couldnt - after playing for Chelsea'. Now that's class. unfortunately, the much loved Poyet didn't feel that way. Hence, when his name is sang at The Bridge - it normally has cunt in the sentence
"The nightmares invading the sleep of Bayern fans involve four horsemen of the Champions League Apocalypse riding towards them. As the faces come into focus, they will recognise Frank Lampard, Cole, Petr Cech and Drogba. All were immense..."
[quote="RamseesCFC"][quote="DAVPEALING"]I do personally think your in the decline, luiz is quality and sturridge is lookin better and better at bolton but i think you need a lot of players as the squad is ageing just my opinion . Its the way torres done it mate is why weve gone hyperbole with it especially in his book el nino mate its sickening am not sayin he will be the first to do it to us and deffo not the last but he had a special affiniation with our support literally 70 to 80 mins of the game his name would be sung through thick and thin so thats why the hatred is there for him mate. But fair play mate the way we treated hodgeson was pretty poor i agree dont get me wrong im one of his biggest critics hes at his level but the way we turned by songs etc wasnt the liverpool way i mite be a red but i try to be an honest red ha[/quote]
I think the problem is mate, most of us cling to the idea that some form of loyalty exists nowadays where the truth is that in 99% of cases it doesn't. We were lucky to see Zola who was one of those 1% and I think Lamps only considered moving because he found it hard after his mother died. Otherwise, he would nevered consider it. JT? who knows. The Man City rumours were strong enough. And possibly we'd have reacted badly to him moving there. Unfortunately, it's the modern game. I always recall Damian Duff saying he never took the move to Spurs because "he couldnt - after playing for Chelsea'. Now that's class. unfortunately, the much loved Poyet didn't feel that way. Hence, when his name is sang at The Bridge - it normally has cunt in the sentence [/quote]
Ur right about the loyalty mate its a shame tho he did that to us as most fans wont remember how good he was for us. As ive said im not a big fan of him after his move but give him a pre season and hell be bangin the goals back in for use i think hes 2 good not 2 mate
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