Id like to thank this man for the memorys and i was one who wanted him to stay. Gutted.

yeah, sorry to see him go as a person but a bit indifferent in all honesty whether he stayed or went. I could be wrong but I think the first half of the Utd game sealed his fate for me. Shocking performance from a team fighting to win the league. Last season, seeds of doubt had already entered my head because of how we were shockingly done by Inter (no shame losing to Mourinho that way I know but still....) and the lack of an alternative did worry me a bit. Still, we won the double and all was well. This season, I was concerned that the squad shed 5 experienced pros so I expected the youngsters were ready. Apparently not. So who's to blame? Well, I find it difficult to believe he didn't have a say in this. And that was the crux of the problem all season - injuries, lack of cover, lose games. Sure, Wilkins going may have upset the applecart but if it was THAT much of a problem, why not resign then? Beyond any of this, the lack of plan B in games also cost us and regardless of who comes in - there are players that need to go and won't be good enough under any coach. That doesn't change. We have the lowest points total in 8 seasons under RA - even less than Ranieri.
Hand on heart do I believe Carlo would have turned it around next season with a few signings? no. I don't. and that's probably why the owner has taken action.

still, all in all, sad to see him go as he was an absolute gent. thanks for the memories Carlo.

I think lamps, drogba , terry, essein have all been pish this season and thats the spine of the team,stupid sacking carlo IMO who they going to bring in who will do a better job?

[quote="scud783"] I think lamps, drogba , terry, essein have all been pish this season and thats the spine of the team,stupid sacking carlo IMO who they going to bring in who will do a better job?[/quote]

I agree - but there was no other players to play bar kids. Essien has been shocking. Lamps was injured for half the season and never came back anything like he can play. Drogba? I agree. Only started playing when Torres came - which underlines my point about competition for places. No Ballack/Belletti/Deco/Joe Cole meant Essien/Malouda had a free run all season.

New manager? fuck knows who......

Agree with much you say Mr Ramsees but a lot of the Chelsea players played their part in a poor season by recent high standards. The two Portugese right backs - both powder puff. Ferreira and Bosingwa were liabilities everytime they set foot on the pitch. Ferreira in particular bugged me - 7 years he's been in English football and made no effort whatsoever to improve his upper body strength, especially when he knew he would occasionally be asked to fill in at centre half.

Take your pick from all of the central midfielders, Ramiries excepted who finished strongly, Lampard, Essien and Mikel and as slow, ponderous and laboured midfield you'll see in top flight European football.

Wingers who didn't create and strikers who couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo didn't help either. There's a few in that Chelsea squad who are lazy footballers - Malouda and Anelka come straight to mind and any new manager worth his salt will have to show them the door.

The real worry about the Chelsea squad is not so much that it's ageing but it's the amount of footballers who are so awkward and clumsy in possession of the ball, I could easily name 7 or 8 and Chelsea's ball retention for a so called top side is shocking.

Ancelotti was a decent sort and deserved better than this - his own errors notwithstanding, he was let down by people all over the place.

Agree Col likewise with most of what you've said. I'd let ferriera off a little in that he should never be asked to play centre back. He's passed it at left back now nevermind in the centre. I agree with anelka and malouda too. IT'S funny as plenty of other clubs supporters think both are much better than they are. tell me the last time anelka won a big game for us? NEver. We've too many players of that ilk like kaloo, mikel anelka malouda who are good v lower sides but don't count in the top premership or cl games. I'd be more worried about starting next season with those still there. And I haven enough time to tell you how much bosingwa does my Fuckin head in....

[quote="RamseesCFC"]Agree Col likewise with most of what you've said. I'd let ferriera off a little in that he should never be asked to play centre back. He's passed it at left back now nevermind in the centre. I agree with anelka and malouda too. IT'S funny as plenty of other clubs supporters think both are much better than they are. tell me the last time anelka won a big game for us? NEver. We've too many players of that ilk like kaloo, mikel anelka malouda who are good v lower sides but don't count in the top premership or cl games. I'd be more worried about starting next season with those still there. And I haven enough time to tell you how much bosingwa does my Fuckin head in.... [/quote]

And if rumours are true about van Basten coming in as head coach we'll be having the exact same discussion in twelve months time, if not sooner. He would be a disaster in the goldfish bowl that is Chelsea FC.

The clubs policy changed dramatically a few months. Big earners were sold and not replaced, Carlo did not have a say in the matter this was purely down to the board and the financial decisions just like a lot of things that changed like making the players have to pay for lunch at training. The club wanted to incorporate it's youth into the team and showcase its fabulous academy and that's when we started to buckle. They weren't ready. So that left us with half a squad. And in that squad is a lot of dead wood. So he had to work with what he had which simply werent good enough. Carlo didn't want Torres, that was a roman signing. Carlo was simply the coach and was let down by a lot of people all over the club. The board lack class, dignity and respect. 6 managers in 7 years? That's embarrassing.

So another Chelsea manager gone. Your owner going to keep doing this if you don't win the league every season? Shambolic way to run a club in my opinion. How are expected to build a team when you know there is a fair chance you are getting the dunt at the end of the season? How are you supposed to discipline players if they know they are on a 3 year contract and there is a good chance you are getting the dunt before the start of the next season so you'll start with a clean slate? Farcical and one of the reasons modern football is on a whole farcical.

[quote="Whitey"]The clubs policy changed dramatically a few months. Big earners were sold and not replaced, Carlo did not have a say in the matter this was purely down to the board and the financial decisions just like a lot of things that changed like making the players have to pay for lunch at training. The club wanted to incorporate it's youth into the team and showcase its fabulous academy and that's when we started to buckle. They weren't ready. So that left us with half a squad. And in that squad is a lot of dead wood. So he had to work with what he had which simply werent good enough. Carlo didn't want Torres, that was a roman signing. Carlo was simply the coach and was let down by a lot of people all over the club. The board lack class, dignity and respect. 6 managers in 7 years? That's embarrassing.[/quote]

According to Ray Wilkins, Torres was Ancellottis number one target in the summer so I'd say that's a myth perpetuating about that. In fact, I've seen Wilkins say it twice at different times on SKY and given he was there in the summer and have no reason to tell lies about it, I'd be happy to believe him. You're right about the squad and cutting costs but it's an assumption to say Carlo had no choice in it - unless you know for a fact he didn't. My guess is he thought by shedding the names they did, he still felt they should be challenging for the league and CL and probably said as much. I know, an assumption but he didn't strike me as devastated about any of their departures. that left people like Essien with no competition. Play badly? no problem. Still in the team next week. And surely if the kids weren't ready, then why wasn't Carlo voicing that? In fairness to him, the Wilkins thing didn't help and he looked a beaten man after that - which kind of makes me wonder why he didn't just resign if he felt that strongly. quoting the stats on the managers doesn't tell the whole story though, does it? Mourinhos PR side show was a major factor in him going (alongside his football style I suppose). Grant as manager was always temporary as was Hiddink. As for Scolari, would you have perservered with him? If we had, we'd have been out of the top 4 and would have a FA Cup less than we do. The board was culpable for the appointment and the main proponent paid with his job (Kenyon). Which brings us to Carlo. Hand on heart, I don't believe he'd have made a difference next season, even with another few signings. More to the point, I don't think he'd have shed players who need to go. For me, he lost his job not because of the fact we finished second. It was the manner of it for much of the season - in my opinion. The league decider against Utd summed it up. Shocking first half from a team who can win to virtually win the league. That summed up the season for me.

I understand the frustration with the board mate but look around. Real Utd supporters won't set foot in OT because of theirs. Pool have just had the worst couple of years in their eyes because of 2 yank cowboys whilst the Yids want to up sticks and move to Stratford! And that's just the top teams. Don't start on the 'Brady Bunch' at Wham, etc....Basically, there's not many owners/boards in football with 'class' as we'd define it. The owner makes mistakes but at least he's nothing like some of the cowboys knocking around nowadays and in my opinion, his mistakes he's made has been due to his impatience to see Chelsea play great football, be revered for it and win the Champions League.

Wilko was always going to say torres was Carlo's signing, he wouldn't stick the knife in the club even after the way he was treated as he is a top bloke. Not many would be so gracefull after that sort of farce. Roman is the real manager of the club, carlo was merely a coach and the way the players loved him and wanted him stay speak volumes. If he was good enough for them, he was good enough for me. People forget how fortunate we are to be in the position we are, and the muppets at the bridge singing 'bring back mourinho' don't have a clue. Carlos record speaks for itself but the boards relentless obsession with being one of europes elite is damaging, not just to the coaching staff and players but supporters as well.

[quote="Whitey"]Wilko was always going to say torres was Carlo's signing, he wouldn't stick the knife in the club even after the way he was treated as he is a top bloke. Not many would be so gracefull after that sort of farce. Roman is the real manager of the club, carlo was merely a coach and the way the players loved him and wanted him stay speak volumes. If he was good enough for them, he was good enough for me. People forget how fortunate we are to be in the position we are, and the muppets at the bridge singing 'bring back mourinho' don't have a clue. Carlos record speaks for itself but the boards relentless obsession with being one of europes elite is damaging, not just to the coaching staff and players but supporters as well. [/quote]

honestly can't see how speaking the truth is sticking the knife in????? he didn't need to go as far as stating as fact that Torres was number 1 target in the summer to deflect the attention away and keep himself right. and sorry mate, no harm but there's some irony in players trumpeting who much they love him as enough of them didn't seem to show it on the park, that's for sure. Had they done, perhaps he'd still be in a job.

I don't like the constant changes either and Hiddink coming in would be another short-term solution in my book whilst Van Basten hasn't really warranted it nor do I think he'd be any if any better than Carlo. I'm more concerned at the Personnel changes that need to happen regardless of who the manager is. As I said earlier, it was the manner of the defeats and performances that cost him, not losing. But if you're gonna lose, FFS give it your all and go down fighting. We rarely did that this season.

Be interesting to see who takes the hot seat.

Just goes to show what we've known for a long time. Football has gone down the shitter.

Ancelotti has too much class for that Russian Oligarch anyway.