Quote by STEVECFCI'm pretty sure someone will buy them ..
Why?
Any Rangers fan who has the money to potentially bail them out didn't get that money by being financially stupid. And to invest in Rangers right now is beyond financial suicide.
people dont buy football clubs to make money.....because football clubs dont make money....but know is the perfect time to buy rangers...and someone will
[quote="STEVECFC"]so you are saying a club with 40,000 + home games , one of the biggest in Scotland , massive amounts of titles and cups is not a viable investment ?
The problem for them Steve is, despite the attractive traits you've mentioned, is that the tax case could be potentially 75 million. That's not including one penny owed elsewhere and heaven knows how much that actually is. Add in the fact that the next four years ticket money is also accounted for. Would be the business equivalent of suicide to touch them in their current guise. I would describe their current situation as grave.
Think its a big time con. David Murray and Craig Whyte in it together.
Conman Whyte buys it off Murray for £1. Administrators now saying they are looking for buyers.
Who is first potential buyer on the scene - Paul Murray son of David Murray. Don't know how it works but sure they can get rid of a heap of debt as the new owners.
Well, I tell them there's no problem Only solutions
Quote by mkj1972Rangers sold out tomorrow. 1994 - Celtic have a match attendance of 10,000 as they plunge into administration (their season average 22,759)
Celtic never went into administration...try harder.
Quote by STEVECFCnot followed it that closely Col , so im not to au fait with it , never realised it was that amount owed ... that's an incredible amount ..
it's fucking crazy Steve. Football never, ever learns. You mentioned the Chelsea case previously and then a generation on only for the Russian we were heading the same way again. I'd hate to see Rangers go to the wall but sooner or later a really big club is going to fold. Personally think football needs a big wake up call.
true mate , it needs to start with the daft wages .. not sure exactly but Eto paid most , something daft like £250,000 a week , may be even more .. how can clubs continue with this .. take Pompey , 20,000 at the most , how does that substansiate wages ..
Quote by casualcolPersonally think football needs a big wake up call.
Look at the Paul Pogba situation at United. OK United pinched him from Le Havre but he was moving to one of the top clubs in the world so that is understandable. He is now moving to Juventus (according to reports) and they are paying him about the same as United offered him - £20,000 a week. The difference being Juventus are paying his agent close to £2Million. The game is truly fucked up and my interest wanes by each passing day.
I've been driving past Rangers training ground this week and wondered why there were all sorts of people outside, I didn't even think to of what's going on with the club, obviously I'm having that much fun in Glasgow it's messing with my mind
Quote by casualcolPersonally think football needs a big wake up call.
Look at the Paul Pogba situation at United. OK United pinched him from Le Havre but he was moving to one of the top clubs in the world so that is understandable. He is now moving to Juventus (according to reports) and they are paying him about the same as United offered him - £20,000 a week. The difference being Juventus are paying his agent close to £2Million. The game is truly fucked up and my interest wanes by each passing day.
Couldn't agree more Andy. Took in a league of Ireland game last Friday night and found it refreshing. The football was shite but the players get paid fuck and the game could only go ahead due to a huge amount of voluntary work. And then the next day a group of professionals contrived to have their manager sacked because they didn't like him, the poor darlings. The game will eventually eat itself.
I was speaking to a chap at Ernst & Young on Monday who has had a good look at the accounts of Rangers FC. He informed me that Rangers FC are "well and truly fucked".
Clearly I am not laughing at the expense of staff who will lose their jobs, Steve.
But yes, I love it. It is a horrible, horrible club surrounded by horrible, horrible people. Give nothing but a bad name to Scotland and the Scottish game. Anyway, I wouldn't be expecting any sympathy from those cunts if the boot was on the other foot. Fuck 'em.
If Rangers fold then the rest of Scottish football is fucked as well. No TV company or sponsors are going to pay to watch Celtic win the league by 20 points every year.
i personally cannot see any other way out other than liquidation.though from what i have heard the spl will possibly be bending the rules regarding the phoenix club being kept in the premier league purely to satisfy the new tv deal as sky will not pay the same amount of sponsorship without the old firm in the league.now as a rangers fan i would rather now just take the relegation and try and work our own way back up.would prefer this to all the sniping that would happen if we were to be kept in the premier all be it with massive point deductions over the next 3 seasons.
Something that some people probably don't know is that a deal to take the Old Firm into the Championship was brokered 2 years ago. It was only vetoed by the bottom 4 clubs in the league at the time. They did say they would take one club but not two in any one year. There was allsorts of litigation attached to the deal i.e. they couldn't get promotion in their first year regardless if they won the Championship, they gave up any European football spot if they happened to win a cup compitition in England etc. etc. The money both clubs could generate from being in Championpship would far out weigh anythng that they could earn in Scotland. Surely if Rangers go into liquidation then this would open the door for Celtic to enter the Championship? I wouldn't bet against that talks haven't already taken place to that end. And all the English Championship teams would welcome one of the OF clubs with open arms.
Scottish football will live on without the Old Firm as long as there is still European football to play for in the SPL. The OF didn't generate that much money from TV for the SPL, & although the fees from TV would drop, there are other income to be made to cover the loss of the OF. It would be refreshing without both of them.
FTOF
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Quote by STEVECFCI would love to see Rangers & Celtic in the PL , I think it would generate massive interest , would happily travel to both stadiums for away games ..
I don't thinky you're the only one mate. I would however be surprised if the chairmen of smaller/middling PL clubs would be so happy. Rangers are undoubtedly a bigger club than Aston Villa, Everton and even the likes of Man City and if they were to join the PL they could become a real force very quickly in effect limiting the opportunities of other teams to win silverware and progress in Europe. The same goes for the Championship. I'm not sure how FIFA would react to a move either, could it have consequences on the international set up?
As Loco mentioned Scotland could survive. The 10 other clubs only get a crust of the TV deal as it is. With Europe a viable option along with a reformed and competitive league structure things could get better for a lot of clubs.
rangers and celtic won't get in the english league because there is no way the english clubs will vote for it. not now the financial stakes are so high.
Quote by nefcrangers and celtic won't get in the english league because there is no way the english clubs will vote for it. not now the financial stakes are so high.
The financial stakes for English clubs in the Championship would be far greater with one of the Old Firm in the league. The problem has always been that they would never vote for both clubs being included in one season. Now that Rangers are on the verge of collapse, the door is open for Celtic.
Mark my words - Rangers go into liquidation - Celtic will push harder for the Championship & be made welcome by the English FA
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Quote by jack5Surely a Welsh team now playing in the Premiership has opened the floodgates?
Why would it? Cardiff for instance have been in the football league for nearly 100 years, won an FA cup and only just missed out on the old division 1 title. Why would it now matter because Swansea are in EPL?
If the old firm were willing to start right at the bottom then I'm sure no one would have an issue with them joining the English system. No one wants either set of bigots to go straight in to the top 4 divisions.
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