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nothing in the news for a long time has wound me up like this has. Im far from your typical sting em up daily mail/sun reader but I honestly think these people deserve an agonising death. No one has the guts to admit it but this kind of thing is becoming a serious problem in the asian community over here and cant be continued to be glossed over, not racially motivated? Your having a fucking laugh arent you.

In fairness there have been a couple of tv documentarys on this and even the former home secretary mentioned it as being a problem. The biggest issue (for me) is that the muslim community doing fuck all about it. Does help that absolute mugs like the EDL and SWP were getting involved either.

I just read the police had suspicions this lot for ages and did nothing out of fear of being criticised as racist. I thought the law was supposed to be blind?

Saw this on the daily mail, simply disgusting.
A friend of mine who lives two villages over was being offered money and drugs for sex by a gang of Muslims, and when she refused was given a black eye and told she was a slag worthy of nothing but death. She’s now afraid to go anywhere alone after this through the fear of what people will do to her.
Awful people and should be sent back to where they belong.

sick fucks - hope they suffer in nick ...

sick cunts

Of course theres a racist undercurrent to this, the police have completely and utterly failed the local people and continue to do so by denying that it has anything to do with race. Even Jack Straw has had the nuts to say it, and Rochdale MP has had to throw Pakistani men out of his surgery for their comments and views on the victims and young white girls. The fella running the Ramadan Foundation who has been on the bbc a fair bit has also said their is definately an issue and muslim leaders are burying their heads in the sand.
There are also lots of other parts to this case, why the girls were out late at night, the (non) role of police and judiciary, the media, etc etc. They're paedophiles first and foremost and should be dealt with as such (hopefully long slow painful death) but the police chose to view them as Asian first and were shit scared of the comeback, what a fucking state to get in

very well said. Anyone claiming that its only pakistani men who could do this is missing the point (it clearly isnt). At the same time we're relying on the police to ignore what colour theey were and feel some fucking collars, not worry about their P.R.

And lets be honest - if thy did this to their mate's daughters, they'd get battered. They found white girls eaier to prey on because of that and the way they lock their own ones up. Whether thats race hate or just calling a spade a spade someone needed to act on it a lot quicke, instead of fannying about.

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The fella running the Ramadan Foundation who has been on the bbc a fair bit has also said their is definately an issue and muslim leaders are burying their heads in the sand.

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Yep, fair play to him for saying it how it is.


A local Muslim spokesman, who has previously spoken out nationally about the "grooming" of young girls by members of the Asian community, has welcomed the verdicts in the Rochdale child sex trial.

Mohammed Shafiq, Chief Executive of the Ramadhan Foundation said: “I wish to pay tribute to the bravery of the young girls that have given evidence in this trial, without their contribution justice would not have been possible. Today’s guilty verdicts are to be welcomed and I hope the message goes out that if you engage in these crimes, you will be caught and brought to justice.

These criminals have brought shame on themselves, their families and our community. We reject their actions without reservation and send our thoughts to the victims and reject any attempt by the far right to tarnish the whole Pakistani community. Their actions have no place in a decent society and today we can say justice has been done.

There is a significant problem for the British Pakistani community, there is an over representation amongst recent convictions in the crime of on street grooming, there should be no silence in addressing the issue of race as this is central to the actions of these criminals. They think that white teenage girls are worthless and can be abused without a second thought; it is this sort of behaviour that is bringing shame on our community. I urge the Police and the Councils not to be frightened to address this issue, there is a strong lesson that you cannot ignore race or be over sensitive.

I have been overwhelmed by the support the Ramadhan Foundation has been given by young people for our campaign on child grooming but concerned that community elders are once again burying their heads in the sand, this concerns us all and we must speak out. The community elders need to learn from the reaction of young people and reject any attempt to silence the reaction from our community. We have over the past twelve months seen tremendous progress, more Imams have spoken out in Friday sermons, workshops and activities for young people have happened in the community and there is a strong commitment to see this work through.

We encourage local authorities and schools to learn from Rochdale where over 9000 teenagers have attended a workshop on child grooming. The Ramadhan Foundation is ready to stand with anyone who wishes to protect these young teenagers. The Police will need to reflect on their failures in this case and we look forward to the IPCC report.

Finally the far right and fascist movements are not welcome to Rochdale, we reject their division and hatred and it has no place in a tolerant and diverse society. We will learn lessons from this case but not allow outsiders to divide us.

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nothing in the news for a long time has wound me up like this has. Im far from your typical sting em up daily mail/sun reader but I honestly think these people deserve an agonising death. No one has the guts to admit it but this kind of thing is becoming a serious problem in the asian community over here and cant be continued to be glossed over, not racially motivated? Your having a fucking laugh arent you.

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Yeah it's also a problem in predominantly white communities, religious groups, childrens homes, private education, public education, homosexuals, hetrosexuals and even family homes! What point are you trying to make, people carry out these sick sick acts regardless of their colour, race, sexuality or creed so why is it brought into the equation?

It's not an 'Asian' problem it's a societal one.

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It's not an 'Asian' problem it's a societal one.

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Think you're missing the point here of the "group grooming". Yes we know of paedophilia amongst the clergy, white families etc but there was clear statistical evidence on the News at Ten quoting that >85% of convicted group grooming was carried out by Pakistani and Bangladeshis.

Personally having 3 daughters it sickens me no matter who does it but I know for a fact that our "white girls" are considered "slags" by a (what I feel would be) minority of the Asian community that frown upon our cultures of things like underage drinking, wearing short skirts etc...

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Yeah it's also a problem in predominantly white communities, religious groups, childrens homes, private education, public education, homosexuals, hetrosexuals and even family homes! What point are you trying to make, people carry out these sick sick acts regardless of their colour, race, sexuality or creed so why is it brought into the equation?

It's not an 'Asian' problem it's a societal one.

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You have spectacuarly missed the point. The 'race' issue isn't about who did the grooming, more about who they groomed. The targets were all white girls because these sick cunts view them differently from Pakistani/muslim girls and the quote I posted up the page by the Chief Exec of the Ramadhan Foundation says as much.

its a horrible story. but what's being suggested here, a purge on asians? as soon as i read the thread title i had a grim idea of what direction the discussion would take. what is it about clothing forum and right wing cranks?

who are the right wing cranks , and how have you come to that conclusion ?

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what is it about clothing forum and right wing cranks?

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Is Mohammed Shafiq, Chief Executive of the Ramadhan Foundation, a right wing crank as he also suggests there is a problem?

im on about the depressing regularity that this sort of discussion crops up on these forums. im not saying these criminals are deserving of anything other than our disgust and whatever the law hands down to them. maybe im misreading it but some of these replies seem to be along the lines of 'them' doing it to 'our' kids.

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On a brighter note the ringleader's just been given 19 years, but can't be named for legal reasons, whats that all about then?

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either he's a minor or, more likely, he's subject of other charges/a trial

It does not matter if they are black asian or white.One thing we all agree on its vile & sick.A bullet to the head for each of them would suffice .Also i for one think it would also save the taxpayer a lot of money!!

this is about a bunch of sickos ion a given ghetto community using the means at their disposal (minicaps, kebab shops, whatever) to prey on the vulnerable (girls who should know better and who have nobody looking out for them).
In this case its some pakistani men who have a thing about white girls. In other cases the same formula gives you white men using online grooming to prey on all sorts of children.
Either way its disgusting and the police should look past their soundbvites on newsnight and JUST DO THEIR JOB

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im on about the depressing regularity that this sort of discussion crops up on these forums. im not saying these criminals are deserving of anything other than our disgust and whatever the law hands down to them. maybe im misreading it but some of these replies seem to be along the lines of 'them' doing it to 'our' kids.

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It is the headline story in the UK at the minute and rightly so. If it was ten white men targetting only muslim girls it would be discussed on here as well so I'm not sure what your point is? Are you sure you aren't imagining a few 'issues' that are clearly not present in this thread?

Please point me to the 'right wing' comments in this thread and we'll take it from there.

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Yeah it's also a problem in predominantly white communities, religious groups, childrens homes, private education, public education, homosexuals, hetrosexuals and even family homes! What point are you trying to make, people carry out these sick sick acts regardless of their colour, race, sexuality or creed so why is it brought into the equation?

It's not an 'Asian' problem it's a societal one.

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It said on the BBC last night that a lone Peado is nearly always a White Male but when gangs are involved it is nearly always Asian men of Pakistani origin. White men go for White children and Asian men in gangs go for White children. From what it said on the news it would appear that it is an Asian problem regarding gangs of Peado's and a White problem with lone Peado's. It is a problem in society but the cultural and religious aspects are clearly a factor in this.
The Catholic church has been exposed as covering things like this up and I fear the Muslim community is doing the same. It is a small minority but I also fear it is a lot more widespread than is acknowledged. Non Muslims are viewed by extremist Muslims as a lower form of life in a similar way a Nazi views a Jew. To ignore these problems makes it worse in the long run. The Imam's should be voicing there concerns instead of hiding it, a mistake also made by the Catholic church. This is a cultural or religious problem when gangs are involved to think other wise is a crass mistake. After all every gang which has been prosecuted have been either all Asian or mostly Asian.

They all deserve a horrible death,and believe me this is just the tip of the iceberg !!