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your quick to put down and mock people for having an opinion James (safc),i don't see you giving a opinion on how to stop these atrocities from happening again or even escalating further.,maybe you think its ok for stuff like that to be happening.im sure a some would enjoy your intelligent input.

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In response to your question to Liam "what are they watching happening?"

I think people are now getting worried at the spread of muslim extremism in the uk. Of course it's not widespread but I think when somebody is butchered so calmly in the street we also want to look at those spreading extremist views but not actually acting.

As these two men are English and fully westernised we are right to ask how they've been brainwashed into this whilst living in England and I think to answer your question "watching what happen exactly" - the spread of these extreme views. Burning poppies whilst chanting for British soldiers to burn in hell and the rape gang in Telford which is in my opinion not completely resulting from innate evil.

Brand may have read the Qu'ran without wanting to commit acts of extreme violence because he hasn't also been brainwashed. I agree with most if what you're saying, SAFC. But I'm sure a lot of people, myself included, would be happier if we didn't allow this hatred to be preached by people such as that Jamal ud din when white British people have been put in prison for mocking deaths on twitter etc.

I can't believe I even have to say this but we should not ostracise the Muslim community because of this and the EDL really are ruining the chances of the government taking any action. Lets just take the piss out of the pissed up working class scouser trying to express his concerns at organised rape gangs in his community.

to be honest james im not going to read your response as im not particularly interested in what you have to say on the subject otherwise your answer would be a lot shorter.

I'll pick up on the russel brand reference , quite simply the last person on earth I'd take any notice of , a complete baffoon whose head is totally scrambled on drugs , and the easy cop out excuse of being mentally ill , two of them are pure evil - complete scum of the earth , that if were dogs we'd put the fuckers down ..

big response of complete horseshit , what proof of EDL involvement in the Mosque attacks do you have ?
as for EDL marches , look at the 6 fanatics that planned to bomb / kill in Yorkshire that were caught , you think innocent bystanders would have been caught up in it all ?

Quote: pedrorocks wrote in post #28

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to be honest james im not going to read your response as im not particularly interested in what you have to say on the subject otherwise your answer would be a lot shorter.

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Quote: STEVECFC wrote in post #29

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I'll pick up on the russel brand reference , quite simply the last person on earth I'd take any notice of , a complete baffoon whose head is totally scrambled on drugs , and the easy cop out excuse of being mentally ill , two of them are pure evil - complete scum of the earth , that if were dogs we'd put the fuckers down ..

big response of complete horseshit , what proof of EDL involvement in the Mosque attacks do you have ?
as for EDL marches , look at the 6 fanatics that planned to bomb / kill in Yorkshire that were caught , you think innocent bystanders would have been caught up in it all ?

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Extremist Muslims were bombing the West long before we invaded their countries.Look back to the 70's and 80's and then bombings of USA interests and then 9/11.
The dreadful bombings and tube attacks are at the extreme end.It's the daily interaction..............or lack of that worries me.Separate swimming provision,rape gangs,Muslim only areas,Insurance fraud and a general disdain for anyone not like them whether they be white,black,Sikh or Chinese etc.For those who think there is no problem,send your ladyfolk through their areas and tell me what reaction they will get.

In years to come,their demands will be ramped up as their percentage of the population increases.Once they have enough voters,expect to see Muslim parties.It's already happening with the likes of Galloway(the infamous Dundee United fan who jumped ship)and the tactics he used in Bradford.

No other so called "minority group" makes the demand this lot do.I work with 2 Indian women(1 Sikh and 1 Hindu).They know the score as to what goes on and they perceive political correctness as a sign of weakness to Muslims.Look at Sweden.Big immigrant communities,but only 1 set rioting and that is to assert their strength as they know the PC Swedes will back down.

As someone who was left-wing in the 80's to the point of attending picket lines in the Miner's strike,I'm disgusted at groups like the UAF who are against and shout down or use violence against anyone they disagree with-whether that be the odious BNP,EDL or now UKIP .They don't seem to have any such qualms though appointing a well-known high profile Islamist to their high command.These loonies don't realise that those they are defending don't believe in equal rights for women/gays or freedom of speech.

The left and political correctness all over the Western world are making people right-wing due to their defending cultures which need to adapt.The likes of the aforementioned BNP/EDL are an irrelevance,but many people across Europe at the moment are angry at the political elite for pandering to a section of the community which is in it's unreconstructured form,fascist.

Islam like Christianity needs to go through a modernisation.The Alawites are the ones attempting to,but are demonised as not being "real Muslims".Unless there is some movement-the pent up anger will explode.Whether that's Muslims reacting to Western society or indigenous people against Muslims,the outcome will be a curtailment of our freedoms and we all lose in that scenario.

I said 10 years ago to people that you would see soldiers beheaded and murdered in Europe in the name of Islam.Folk laughed in the main,they are not laughing now.Similarly,I believe Europe is one Mumbai style attack away from a low level civil war.The question is who will be the first?Britain,Holland,Germany,France,Russia or Sweden.

excellent post ..
appreciate good view on this subject ..

On sky news there's a report saying an Islamic boarding school has been set on fire

Yes it true. No Children hurt.

This thread has gone quiet!

The Sun seems hellbent on choudray - http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/new...ng-buffoon.html

http://news.sky.com/story/1101612/islami...edl-attack-plot

Four teenagers have been arrested after an atempted arson attack at an Islamic boarding school in south-east London.

About 128 pupils and staff were evacuated from Darul Uloom School in Foxbury Avenue, Chislehurst, on Saturday after it was set on fire.

Two 17-year-olds and two 18-year-olds were arrested on suspicion of arson on Sunday and may also be charged with attempted murder and terrorist charges.

Police said the fire caused minor damage and two people were treated for the effects of smoke inhalation.

The teenagers are in custody at a south London police station.

Commander Simon Letchford said, "It's only by luck that the fire attack didn't prove to be fatal.

"Fortunately [it] was identified very quickly."

Whenever I read about those 6 twats that have been sent down today, I can't help but sing "Dancing in the moonlight"

heard on the news that attacks against muslims have risen to 8 a day(reported) from the 1 a day since lee rigby.
i wonder how many go unreported.innocents need not be harmed on both sides.

"Ali Abu, 30, of the Somali charity BritSom, said: “We are all shocked by what has happened. We condemn this attack."

He/they condemn this attack, the arson of a building. Whoever it was. Where was Ali Abu and the Somali charity BritSom to condemn the woolwich murder of Lee Rigby? Where are they week-in, week-out to condemn the hate preached against this country and it's people by extremists like Quatada and Chourdry?

"It is very concerning when we know that, online, there is a huge amount of anti-Muslim hate. We know that. When it moves into the physical world, it is extremely concerning."

Really? It's very nice of you to acknowledge that. However, by all means, don't acknowledge that, online, there is a huge amount of hate for anyone not a Muslim.

On a whole, muslims are very quick to condemn any hate or attack on their religion but are nowhere to be seen when muslims hate or attack anyone else.

Are you talking about the Somali community that worked to get the release of the elderly couple that was held captive by the Somali Pirates in Kenya. The Somali Community that gave and raised money to pay the ransom when the UK Goverment refused to pay the ransom?
Or we taking abiut some other Somalis?
And where is the so called hate crime being preached week in week out besides when the British Media show it?

Wasn't it a Somali who stabbed a police officer and 3 others in a mosque the other day? Or do we just have to ignore that?

Quote: Dempsey wrote in post #44

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Wasn't it a Somali who stabbed a police officer and 3 others in a mosque the other day? Or do we just have to ignore that?

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