Quote: Leonard Osbourne wrote in post #26Ooooot from my household Btw where has all the news gone about immigrants kicking off all over France etc Very odd
Quote: Leonard Osbourne wrote in post #26Ooooot from my household Btw where has all the news gone about immigrants kicking off all over France etc Very odd
People loose interest in the same news story after some time so MSM move onto the next story. Been a busy few years for me getting over Ebola, Swine Flu, Measles outbreak, Bird Flu, only worry now is the risk of cancer from others smoking E Cigs and that having a nap in the afternoon can give me a Heart Attack...
Quote: Leonard Osbourne wrote in post #26Ooooot from my household Btw where has all the news gone about immigrants kicking off all over France etc Very odd
People loose interest in the same news story after some time so MSM move onto the next story. Been a busy few years for me getting over Ebola, Swine Flu, Measles outbreak, Bird Flu, only worry now is the risk of cancer from others smoking E Cigs and that having a nap in the afternoon can give me a Heart Attack...
Quote: Leonard Osbourne wrote in post #26Ooooot from my household Btw where has all the news gone about immigrants kicking off all over France etc Very odd
Out here an all,seen video's of it kicking off across the water but the fuckin media haven't reported fuck all.
UK Millitary have been told by the "Goverment" to vote remain in the EU Ref. (A D notice has been put on all media coverage of this hence no info of it reported by the Media)
Watched bits of that ITV referendum program last night, I thought Cameron and Farage were going to be on the stage at the same time. Dodgy Dave weren't having that, he went on after Farage, shows how spineless he really is!
Quote: Tone wrote in post #34Watched bits of that ITV referendum program last night, I thought Cameron and Farage were going to be on the stage at the same time. Dodgy Dave weren't having that, he went on after Farage, shows how spineless he really is!
He's a fat fucking mug...I genuinely hate the cunt
Farage was on our edition of the local itv news last week promoting the debate and when the host asked why cameron wasnt on stage with him at the same time his reply was......tell them to bring him on if he thinks hes hard enough!
It is all a big con and Farage is one of the players. Peter Sutherland's (Bilderberg Member& former european representative for immigration) below statement shows the reality of Immigration.. "The UN Should Be Doing It's Best To Encourage migration To Undermine The Homigeniety Of European Countries" How did they encourage mass migration, bombed the hell out of people's countries forcing them to move..
Quote: muskamber wrote in post #38It is all a big con and Farage is one of the players. Peter Sutherland's (Bilderberg Member& former european representative for immigration) below statement shows the reality of Immigration.. "The UN Should Be Doing It's Best To Encourage migration To Undermine The Homigeniety Of European Countries" How did they encourage mass migration, bombed the hell out of people's countries forcing them to move..
On the 25th April, The Guardian published a “satirical” short video starring Patrick Stewart inspired by the classic Monty Python sketch, and designed to highlight Theresa May’s plan for a British Bill of Rights. The clear message is that Britain should remain bound by the European Convention on Human Rights and Theresa May should be stopped in her tracks. Yet while this latter point cannot be doubted, the question remains, “what has the ECHR ever done for us?”
The European Convention on Human Rights is an international treaty drafted in 1950 by the pre-EU Council of Europe. It came into force in 1953. While the Guardian’s timing of this video is significant, the ECHR has no direct bearing on the EU Referendum debate: in or out Britain will still be bound by the ECHR and the European Court of Human Rights.
This will come as a relief to many in Britain, especially activists and campaign groups who have a tendency to run off to a supra-national body (the European Court of Human Rights) any time the British government steps on their toes. I find this ironic, since it is the likes of supra-national policy, globalist corporate interests and erosion of national sovereignty that they are often fighting.
The ECHR has, according to Wikipedia, “played an important role in the development and awareness of Human Rights in Europe.”
The key word here is “human”. “Human” Rights deny the existence of God. For many, this is completely appropriate. Yet to deny the principle of a higher power in our political and legal organisation is unbelievably dangerous. I find it no surprise that the main groups pushing “Human Rights” and constitutional reform in Britain are “secular” humanists, “rationalists” and other atheists.
For the record, I am not a religious person. For me, the question at the heart of all this is: where do our rights come from?
Are they given to us by Theresa May?
No?
David Cameron, then?
If not from them, then where? If we assume the non-existence of God, then they must come from some human being. Someone is set above all others to decide what is right and what is wrong. Perhaps it isn’t one person; maybe a corporation or other corporate interests?
How many times have we heard the lie that Britain has no constitution? Sometimes this statement is tempered by the suggestion that Britain has no “written” constitution.
It is true that Britain’s constitution has evolved over thousands of years. It is not codified in a single document and so it can be difficult to get to grips with all the nuances. However at its heart is the principle of unlimited, unalienable, God given rights.
How many times have we been told in recent years that our laws are old and dusty and have to be “modernised”? They have to be modernised because for our current God denying constitutional reformers, God given rights are inconvenient.
Our main constitutional documents, for example Magna Carta or the Declaration of Right/Bill of Rights, are restatements of even older principles. They are reassertions of principles and rights; supported by hundreds of years of case law. The British constitution is based on the idea that the longer a principle is in force, the more validity it has because successive generations of people - not one person or vested interest - agreed it is right.
Possibly the single most important example of this case law is “The Case of Seizure of Papers, being an Action of Trespass by JOHN ENTICK, clerk, against NATHAN CARRINGTON and three other Messengers in Ordinary to the King, Court of Common-Pleas, Michaelmus Term: George III A. D. 1765”
This case established the default constitutional position regarding rights in Britain: that ‘the state may do nothing but that which is expressly authorised by law, while the individual may do anything but that which is forbidden by law.’
With this principle formally established for a couple of hundred years, what is the purpose of “human rights”?
Back to Patrick Stewart: “but … apart from the right to a fair trial, the right to privacy, to freedom of religion, freedom of expression, freedom from discrimination, freedom from slavery and freedom from torture and degrading treatment, and protecting victims of domestic violence … but apart from these, what has the European Convention on Human Rights ever done for us?”
This is the clever twist of this so-called “satire”; the “nudge” if you like.
The implication, the message which is being delivered, is that without the ECHR, we would not have the right to a fair trial (as just one example). Yet this, and all the others, are established rights which have existed for hundreds, if not thousands, of years before ECHR ever did. At best, like Magna Carta, ECHR could be viewed as a restatement of existing rights, but that is all.
Theresa May is playing a similar clever psychological game. By stating that she is going to remove Britain from the ECHR, she is creating public demand for “human” rights over God given rights. She is creating public consent for selected “humans” to decide what our rights are, to give them and take them away on a whim, to limit them.
Again, I ask, are you happy that Theresa May or David Cameron decide what your rights are?
Let me remind you of Entick -v- Carrington: ‘the state may do nothing but that which is expressly authorised by law, while the individual may do anything but that which is forbidden by law.’
Theresa May, and for that matter everyone driving the European constitutional model, would turn this principle on its head. Theresa May is pushing for the activities of the state to be unlimited, and the activities of the “human” to be limited. This is the basis of “human” rights.
Patrick Stewart ends by saying, “now I’m not against human rights, of course not …”
Well, I am, and I would argue that you should be too. (Mike Robbinson)
Quote: Leonard Osbourne wrote in post #47Instead of posting pages and pages of shit tell us humans on here why, in 1 sentance what the fuck your fucking babbling on about Eh
Joining the EU stripped away our rights as english men and woman to live without goverment oppression, corporate theft and taxation.
Just in case you haven't chosen your camp yet, you can side with either of these two groups.
Group 1: (Bremain).
• Governor of the Bank of England • International Monetary Fund • Institute for Fiscal Studies • Confederation of British Industry • Leaders/heads of state of every single other member of the EU • President of the United States of America • Eight former US Treasury Secretaries • President of China • Prime Minister of India • Prime Minister of Canada • Prime Minister of Australia • Prime Minister of Japan • Prime Minister of New Zealand • The chief executives of most of the top 100 companies in the UK including Marks and Spencer, BT, Asda, Vodafone, Virgin, IBM, BMW etc. • Kofi Annan, the former Secretary General of the United Nations • All living former Prime Ministers of the UK (from both parties) • Virtually all reputable and recognised economists • The Prime Minister of the UK • The leader of the Labour Party • The Leader of the Liberal Democrats • The Leader of the Green Party • The Leader of the Scottish National Party • The leader of Plaid Cymru • Leader of Sinn Fein • Martin Lewis, that money saving dude off the telly • The Secretary General of the TUC • Unison • National Union of Students • National Union of Farmers • Stephen Hawking • Chief Executive of the NHS • 300 of the most prominent international historians • Director of Europol • David Anderson QC, Independent Reviewer of Terrorism Legislation • Former Directors of GCHQ • Secretary General of Nato • Church of England • Church in Scotland • Church in Wales • Friends of the Earth • Greenpeace • Director General of the World Trade Organisation • WWF • World Bank • OECD
Group 2: (Brexit)
• Boris Johnson. • Michael Gove. • Leader of UKIP • BNP • Britain First • Donald Trump • Keith Chegwin • David Icke • Vladimir Putin • Marine Le Pen
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