Quote: edd wrote in post #26Over 500 million raised for cancer research who gives a fcuk if he was clean or not!
I take it you're not a cycling fan.
Yeh I am, also like track and field and most other sports. Tbh it's a witch hunt what they should be doing is finding out who wasn't on drugs at the time! It's easy to find a grass if you offer the right incentives.
from what I've seen and read , most who competed with him at the time admitted they were on performance enhancing drugs / have claimed LA supplied them .. and also begs the arguement that if all of those were on them , how come he managed to beat them year in year out if clean ?
if it was me , and I was 100% clean , then I'd fight tooth and nail to clear my name , and being stripped of all those T de F titles must hurt ..
Donations to Armstrong's foundation have increased to 20 times their daily average since the charges against him were made. Like i say no one gives a fcuk about if he was on drugs or not, of most importance is that all the money he continues to raise will go towards finding new drugs that will help 1 in 3 of us who will get cancer. If he were a nazi war criminal or something i'd be all for the witch hunt, but the guy was a cyclist, they have 10 former team mates who say he took drugs, although over all the years he never tested positive, the only thing that will come out of this are bigger swimming pools for the lawyers.
Quote: edd wrote in post #33Donations to Armstrong's foundation have increased to 20 times their daily average since the charges against him were made. Like i say no one gives a fcuk about if he was on drugs or not, of most importance is that all the money he continues to raise will go towards finding new drugs that will help 1 in 3 of us who will get cancer. If he were a nazi war criminal or something i'd be all for the witch hunt, but the guy was a cyclist, they have 10 former team mates who say he took drugs, although over all the years he never tested positive, the only thing that will come out of this are bigger swimming pools for the lawyers.
And not a penny of that money will go to "research". It has'nt done for years. Livestrong does cancer "awareness". He tested positive for drugs. He just got himself a backdated script. I can;t remember the excuse he gave but, it was about as believable as the linford christie gin seng tea bollocks( which were both believed, unbelievably). You say you are into cycling. Well, if George Hincapie says he saw lance dope, then you and i know he saw lance dope.
Quote: edd wrote in post #26Over 500 million raised for cancer research who gives a fcuk if he was clean or not!
I take it you're not a cycling fan.
Yeh I am, also like track and field and most other sports. Tbh it's a witch hunt what they should be doing is finding out who wasn't on drugs at the time! It's easy to find a grass if you offer the right incentives.
I'm mystified how anyone who professes to be a fan of cycling isn't bothered by doping, let alone doping by a man who was made out to be the greatest cyclist of modern times. It's cheating. End of. How is pursuing a dope cheat a witch hunt?
I'd take it further than that. Anyone who professes to be a sports fan has to be concerned that one man was allowed to dope knowingly by the officials and get away with it.
And the other sad part of this is the irony of Livestrong. It is known that doping with certain drugs can cause cancer (some believe his doping may have brought on his own testicular cancer) and yet he basically demanded that all his teamates doped and in doing so was putting them at risk of developing the disease he worked to cure. The man is a fucking fraud.
Quote: edd wrote in post #33Donations to Armstrong's foundation have increased to 20 times their daily average since the charges against him were made. Like i say no one gives a fcuk about if he was on drugs or not, of most importance is that all the money he continues to raise will go towards finding new drugs that will help 1 in 3 of us who will get cancer. If he were a nazi war criminal or something i'd be all for the witch hunt, but the guy was a cyclist, they have 10 former team mates who say he took drugs, although over all the years he never tested positive, the only thing that will come out of this are bigger swimming pools for the lawyers.
Western world hates a hero, hates someone being good. Always questioning, always a conspiracy. The internet is the main problem behind it.
End of the day, he was and is not guilty and the guy is a legend, and thats without his amazing work for cancer!
Christ what next, "The reason he didn't test positive is because he had small kidneys inserted into his chest muscles and his real urine came out of his nipples, the stuff coming out of his penis was apple juice... Honestly, i read it online/in a book."
Quote: Victorinox wrote in post #Haha Some of the shit on here is funny.
Western world hates a hero, hates someone being good. Always questioning, always a conspiracy. The internet is the main problem behind it.
End of the day, he was and is not guilty and the guy is a legend, and thats without his amazing work for cancer!
Christ what next, "The reason he didn't test positive is because he had small kidneys inserted into his chest muscles and his real urine came out of his nipples, the stuff coming out of his penis was apple juice... Honestly, i read it online/in a book."
CORRECT. Some of the shit on here is funny. Point proved.
For over 30 years I have dedicated my life to cycling. I have always been determined to compete at the highest level, in one of the most physically demanding sports. With hard work and success have come great blessings from the sport I love.
Teammates have become dear friends and I have worked hard to earn the respect of my competitors. I have been associated with managers and team officials whose professionalism is unparalleled. Wonderful fans have supported my family and me since I began this great journey. For all of this and more, I am truly grateful and proud.
Because of my love for the sport, the contributions I feel I have made to it, and the amount the sport of cycling has given to me over the years, it is extremely difficult today to acknowledge that during a part of my career I used banned substances. Early in my professional career, it became clear to me that, given the widespread use of performance enhancing drugs by cyclists at the top of the profession, it was not possible to compete at the highest level without them. I deeply regret that choice and sincerely apologize to my family, teammates and fans.
Quietly, and in the way I know best, I have been trying to rectify that decision. I have competed clean and have not used any performance enhancing drugs or processes for the past six years. Since 2006, I have been working hard within the sport of cycling to rid it of banned substances. During this time, I continued to successfully compete at the highest level of cycling while mentoring young professional riders on the right choices to make to ensure that the culture of cycling had changed.
About two years ago, I was approached by US Federal investigators, and more recently by USADA, and asked to tell of my personal experience in these matters. I would have been much more comfortable talking only about myself, but understood that I was obligated to tell the truth about everything I knew. So that is what I did.
Cycling has made remarkable gains over the past several years and can serve as a good example for other sports. Thankfully, the use of performance enhancing drugs is no longer embedded in the culture of our sport, and younger riders are not faced with the same choice we had.
I am proud to be part of the cycling community, and believe we continue to make positive changes to our sport. I applaud the extraordinary achievements of my fellow riders on and off the bike. Cycling is an incredible sport that not only requires unbelievable physical ability to ride hundreds of miles a day for many days on end; it also requires a certain type of dedication, ambition and character. I have been fortunate to compete with teammates whose commitment and talent will be hard to match. As a rider I have dedicated a large part of my career to helping those teammates succeed. As I begin the next chapter in my cycling life, I look forward to playing a significant part in developing, encouraging and helping young riders to compete and win with the best in the world.
This is the list of Armstrongs former teamates who have come clean and given evidence saying they, along with Armstrong all doped.
Frankie Andreu Michael Barry Tom Danielson Tyler Hamilton George Hincapie Floyd Landis Levi Leipheimer Stephen Swart Christian Vande Veld Jonathan Vaughters David Zabriskie
Hincapie is a fucking worm. He says he was asked to tell his personal experiances. Ha ha, ASKED! more like TOLD, or he would be going to jail. Funny how they all stopped taking drugs in 2006. Michael Barry is interesting. Did'nt he ride for a team that said they would not use ex dopers last year? At least they finally got rid of leinders. It's been a long time coming for Armstrong.
Hincapie is a fucking worm. He says he was asked to tell his personal experiances. Ha ha, ASKED! more like TOLD, or he would be going to jail. Funny how they all stopped taking drugs in 2006. Michael Barry is interesting. Did'nt he ride for a team that said they would not use ex dopers last year? At least they finally got rid of leinders. It's been a long time coming for Armstrong.
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