Quote: Leonard Osbourne wrote in post #25

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Isn't life fucking wonderful

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I'm on the vino wor kid

Quote: maclufc wrote in post #26

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Imagine how it feels for me, watching all you fans of smaller clubs, moaning about life in the Premier league, when my club that is far bigger than most, languishes in the lower division...

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Quote: redmond wrote in post #31

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good day for us yesterday i was up at 5 too many jager bombs last night and demolished a house special chowmein
sending her to town with my card a small price to pay for a peaceful house

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Quote: redmond wrote in post #33

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am spot on ian just tired off the caffine the food and last night broadwalk sorted me out this morning..
thats me in now till chrismas eve am working the next two weekends to get the days off between chrismas-new year

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Quote: get the beer in wrote in post #29

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Quote: STEVECFC wrote in post #22

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it's the burden us big clubs always face when we play the shitty little clubs , always slip up .. just look at when we played West Brom , they stole 2 points from us , then had the audacity to complain about a stonewall blatant penalty ..
but seeing the Mancs lose at home cushioned the blow ..
oh and my home City Norwich hammered a small time club ..
so not all bad today ..

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Thought Everton played superbly first half today
Finished 1-1 with Arse still flying high.

Quote: get the beer in wrote in post #38

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I'll go with that T, If that shot by Giroud had gone in, the Arse would now be 7 points clear!

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Spurs v Arsenal in the CUP , no mention anywhere ..

Keep it up Moyes,you are doing a fantastic job.

wondering what Andy and the other Utd lads think about the time Moyes will be afforded? I honestly cant see if being much. He'll probably get the first 8 games of next season even if he misses the CL places but modern football and its associated structures (death by pundit analysis, social media, moron phone-ins, etc....) will have the bulk of Utd "fans" going mental (those schooled on the premise of a bad season being an FA Cup win....). Can't see the Glaziers holding firm if that starts kicking off. will he even get a full season if the CL place is in doubt?

The Glazers have to have CL football the debt on the club is massive it's similar to the scenario Liverpool were in with Gillette & Hicks.
If Moyes does not deliver CL football next season or any trophy it's the end for him,long way to go yet though.

I think the Glazers can still service the debt and make money from the club without CL - it'll mean no big signings, big earners being let go and lots more marketing "partnerships". Bringing in a small timer like moyes looks like the start of a managed decline.

I'm not sure Glenn. The main problem was leaving the appointment to Fergie imo. I believe that even if the Glazers get to a point of wanting Moyes gone that Fergie will talk them out of it pointing back to when he arrived at OT and how long it took him to get success (ignoring the fact that Fergie took over a struggling team and Moyes has been handed the champions). If Moyes turns out to be a huge flop it would all be on Fergie and his ego won't let that happen easily. The Glazers have no clue about football matters and so they left the choice of Fergie's successor in his hands believing no one could be better placed to do it. Sounds good I suppose but in truth it was seriously flawed. For instance, would Fergie have picked Moyes if he wasn't a Scot? All this 'cut from the same cloth' is a nice ideal but what does it have to do with football management of multi-millionaire players and winning trophies? I also think Moyes was chosen knowing he was a yes man. Won't rock the boat and is honoured just to be manager of United. I'm also not sure why Fergie is attending every match including European aways?

Serious question. Was Fergie worried about his successor coming in and bagging a load of trophies?

Very good summary ^^^

What another poor half in the CL from them.

Roy Keane actually got it right, a few individuals running around, no team fluidity.

And Rio ffs ....amateur night.



And together with the cunt Adrian Chiles spouting utter shite...big nosed/heed twat.

Serious question. Was Fergie worried about his successor coming in and bagging a load of trophies?

something I was thinking the other day .. quite astute by Fergie , look how bad they are struggling / yet oh great one managed to win the league ..
kinda plausable , but also think it this way , we are so used to managers getting sacked early , we're almost programmed into thinking few games lost = sacking ..
maybe a bit of time he'll turn things around , I do think Utd need to strengthen in few areas , however Giggs is , at 72 he can't sustain a full season ..

Chelsea are the same , players in that team just aren't good enough ..

Speaking about Roy Keane should be worth a watch on ITV4 at 10 about his rivalry wit Paddy Vieira.

Lol united win a game! Did not watch it but heard they sang about scousers the whole game! Obsessed not much!