I'm kind of ignorant to what all this EDL nonsense is all about, i wouldn't even waste 5 minutes looking at the You Tube clips to be honest.

I'm very much of the opinion that 'i'm alright Jack, it doesn't affect me'
A selfish way to look at it but Hey Ho.......,

Neil - the vid is funny...

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Neil - the vid is funny...

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The fella is a fucking clown

Check the Evisu Defence League one that Mr watts put up...

Evisu Defence League is pretty funny vid :D

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"I think its best to just leave them be, let them get on with what they are doing, even if we don't agree with it"

Absolutly fucking not - these cunts need telling that there prize bells.

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How exactly are you going to tell them? And it won't make an ounce of difference as to what they are doing, they will continue to do it, regardless.

Just watched the video. It was infuriating how thick he was. Let alone the point he was getting across.

"How exactly are you going to tell them? And it won't make an ounce of difference as to what they are doing, they will continue to do it, regardless."

By writing about it in threads like this
By retweeting anti EDL links on twitter
by educating people as to the vile and ignorant nature of the EDL

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"Im sure most the lads on here would agree with the main things they stand for just maybe not how they go about it."

Absolutly fucking not - a load of absolute bullshit

"I think its best to just leave them be, let them get on with what they are doing, even if we don't agree with it"

Absolutly fucking not - these cunts need telling that there prize bells.

Totally agree pal.

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Dont know about any of this but I am a memeber of the full english defence league, defending the traditional english breakfast from foreign foods that have invaded the once proud breakfast tables of this land. Were marching outside a croissant factory in Luton next week if anyone wants in. No surrender to Le Petit Dejeuner!

i suggest we take defence against the dark arts classes at hogwarts next year.

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Dont know about any of this but I am a memeber of the full english defence league, defending the traditional english breakfast from foreign foods that have invaded the once proud breakfast tables of this land. Were marching outside a croissant factory in Luton next week if anyone wants in. No surrender to Le Petit Dejeuner!

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Where the fuck do I sign up? - theres a cafe near me that does Blueberry drop scone for breakfast - I'm thinking of fire bombing the fucking place...

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I think you can see the reason why you went, like you say large group's of football lads are using it to hang onto whats been taken away at the football, it's not the way to go mate.
I went to the one in Wolverhampton, not in with them because it's not my thing on so many different levels, but stood next to them and watched them for a bit, a massive bunch of scruffy idiots with no sense of direction or common sense, pockets of them were chanting at asian's in the street, if you asked everyone there why they were there 65% of them would give a similar answer to the lad in that video, I know plenty who go on them including mate's of mine, for many it's an excuse to go out with the lads, bang a load of powder and get pissed and play up, and thats all it will ever be.

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Nah its not the way to go, like i said i wouldnt go on another one now, unless it was in Wolves obviously but id be the same as you and just be outside of it, probably in the boozer Like you said there alot of the people that go havent got a clue what its all about and then theres always a high number of footy lads there just looking for a good day out and your right its never going to change.

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I think its best to just leave them be, let them get on with what they are doing, even if we don't agree with it (I'm assuming most of us don't)

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FFS? Out of the mouths of babes!

First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for the communists
and I did not speak out - because I was not a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out - because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for me -
and by then there was no one left to speak out for me.

The German anti-Nazi activist,
Pastor Martin Niemöller

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"Im sure most the lads on here would agree with the main things they stand for just maybe not how they go about it."

Absolutly fucking not - a load of absolute bullshit

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Maybe i phrased that wrong, i should have said id be sure that most lads would agree with the reason they were supposed to have originally started.

Wolves88, the EDL "leaders" don't know what it's all about either. If it's supposedly about defending people from militant Islam, then why is nearly every aspect of Muslim culture being attacked? These wankers like Steven Lennon and Carroll (who want to look at the way their own ancestors were treated, both being of Irish stock) have moved the goalposts so many times that they really have no basis of argument. How can they attack Muslims for the way they butcher meat yet fly Israeli flags in support of their Jewish 'mates' - a fucking laughable clutching of straws if there ever was one - who buthcer Kosher meat in the exact same way? I'm of Jewish descent so I don't have an agenda here other than to point out their brazen ignorance.

There are supporters and apologists for these twats everywhere, but if you think that getting in tow with fascists is 'a good day out' then that's a real pity. Maybe I'm just an amateur, but I always thought that part of being a sussed chap was seeing past bullshit and being one step ahead of the game, and not just in what clothes you have on your back.

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Wolves88, the EDL "leaders" don't know what it's all about either. If it's supposedly about defending people from militant Islam, then why is nearly every aspect of Muslim culture being attacked? These wankers like Steven Lennon and Carroll (who want to look at the way their own ancestors were treated, both being of Irish stock) have moved the goalposts so many times that they really have no basis of argument. How can they attack Muslims for the way they butcher meat yet fly Israeli flags in support of their Jewish 'mates' - a fucking laughable clutching of straws if there ever was one - who buthcer Kosher meat in the exact same way? I'm of Jewish descent so I don't have an agenda here other than to point out their brazen ignorance.

There are supporters and apologists for these twats everywhere, but if you think that getting in tow with fascists is 'a good day out' then that's a real pity. Maybe I'm just an amateur, but I always thought that part of being a sussed chap was seeing past bullshit and being one step ahead of the game, and not just in what clothes you have on your back.

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As said above maybe i worded it wrong first and should have said most people could agree with the reason it was all started in the beginning, you seem to be alot more clued up on it than i am (not got much intrest in it) so correct me if im wrong but wasnt it all started when the troops were getting abuse when marching through Luton??? Obviously it has moved on alot since then and as youve said there things like the issues with halal meat but then waving an israeli flag are laughable. But i still think to say as some people do that everyone that goes on the demos are basically out and out racists is way off the mark.

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My memory is a bit hazy but I think the Islamist protest in Luton against the troops home coming from Afghanistan was the last straw for the town as it had been blowing up for quite a while before then, I know a couple of Luton lad's and they used to post about it on various boards, pretty similar to Oldham at the time so in some respect I see what your trying to say pal about why it was started, it's like the Islamic divvies who set fire to a giant poppy on armistice day in London and the Portsmouth branch painted a massive poppy on the local muslim temple, I can see why they retaliated and like you I can semi see why it was formed but it's got so out of hand in term's their follower's and how they act it's just shit, I think the weekend one in Blackburn could blow up as there has been a lot going on up there and Bradford, Huddersfield etc, you have made it pretty clear you know what it's about deep down and they will only go one way which is down, but that's how they have made it.

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Exactly what im trying to say mate and its things like that imo why i think alot of people do go on the EDL marches, alot wont care about alot of the other stuff that is spouted but are tired of seeing things like that with the troops and the poppy etc etc. Im not naive enough to think alot of people that go arent just plain racists but as ive said to label everyone the same is way off the mark. There isnt any other group who protest about things like the marches against the soldiers happening and if there was it would just end up going the exact same way as the edl as there is noway you can control who turns up on the day, but does that mean that everyone should just sit back and say nothing???

I think anyone with half a brain who harboured feelings against musilims who protest by burning poppies would not vent there feelings via the EDL. There are more coherent, tolerant and viable sources to channel your energies.

I would urge anyone who has an opinion on anything to get involved on twitter as you will find some thing.

I for one am keen on the anti cuts movement, UKUncut which I found via twitter.

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I think anyone with half a brain who harboured feelings against musilims who protest by burning poppies would not vent there feelings via the EDL. There are more coherent, tolerant and viable sources to channel your energies.

I would urge anyone who has an opinion on anything to get involved on twitter as you will find some thing.

I for one am keen on the anti cuts movement, UKUncut which I found via twitter.

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What other ways are there that are going to get as much attention as a protest though? Its all well and good having loads of people on twitter following a campaign for the same thing but realisticly do you think that will make a difference?

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Exactly what im trying to say mate and its things like that imo why i think alot of people do go on the EDL marches, alot wont care about alot of the other stuff that is spouted but are tired of seeing things like that with the troops and the poppy etc etc. Im not naive enough to think alot of people that go arent just plain racists but as ive said to label everyone the same is way off the mark. There isnt any other group who protest about things like the marches against the soldiers happening and if there was it would just end up going the exact same way as the edl as there is noway you can control who turns up on the day, but does that mean that everyone should just sit back and say nothing???

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The EDL Wands and the Muslim Wands who go around burning poppys are just two sides of the same coin.

None of them exactly garner a ground swell of popular opinion and encouragement do they.

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The EDL Wands and the Muslim Wands who go around burning poppys are just two sides of the same coin.

None of them exactly garner a ground swell of popular opinion and encouragement do they.

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Yeah they probably are, but all im saying is i agree with the reasons why it was all first started up (if i was right in thinking it was because of the thing in Luton) and i dont see how anyone could be against that. Yes people might hate the way its gone, the leaders and alot that attend the demos but why should people just sit back and take things like what happened in Luton without doing anything?