I don't think I've ever been so shocked by a 'celebrity' death. Genuinely can't get my he'd around it. Hope the rumours of a scandal in tomorrow's papers isn't true.
Cannot comprehend this at all. I was having a late breakfast this morning with my brothers after attending our Nan's 80th party last night when the sports news came on the radio. I heard the words, 'the Welsh FA have announced...', and I thought they were gonna announce a glamour friendly against Brazil or something. I literally could not believe what I was hearing and we sat in silence for about 30 seconds. His poor wife and kids. Sad loss to his family, Cymru and the football world. Again, RIP.
Quote by Nealio678I was there during his footballing debut. Pittodrie with Everton in 96. R.I.P never will be forgotten.
Twas an eventful day that in Aberdeen
On the subject of Gary Speed - without knowing the full facts, i struggle to have any respect for someone that takes their own life. He's left a wife & 2 children behind, they're the people i feel sorry for.
to feel the need to take your own life , you must be in an extremely dark place , I have every sympathy for him , of course who he's left behind , but if it was suicide things in his life must have been pretty desperate to have to do this .. a friend of mine hung himself , life dealt him an unreal shitty hand , lost so much in his personal life , he felt suicide was his only option .
I'm not denying that its a terrible thing to happen & he was obviously in a very dark place. I also did state that i struggle to have sympathy, not that i didn't have any at all. I also stated that i didn't know all the facts. Has it been confirmed that he had depression?
At the end of the day its all about opinions and my opinion is that nothing is that bad that you need to take your own life, leave your wife without a husband & your kids fatherless. I guess strength of character has a lot to do with it. I've known people that have lost the will to live, been lower than a snakes bollocks, but haven't felt the need to take their own life.
Depression/mental illness is exactly that - an illness. Speed obviously didn't see a way out of whatever trouble he was having. I know you haven't said it but today I've heard people label him a 'coward' for taking his own life. That's complete bollocks and it really grates on me when some people in society extend their sympathy to people with a physical disability or illness yet label people who are going through hard times mentally as 'cowards' or 'weirdos'.
still not sunk in...Really choking watching robbie savage on the bbc yesterday talking about his mate, despite what anyone thinks of savage was very touching. Speedo always gave 100% for us even though it was late in his playing career, was a great role model to have around for the younger players. Looked to be doing a great job with wales too. Hope he's found peace now.
Quote by Nealio678I was there during his footballing debut. Pittodrie with Everton in 96. R.I.P never will be forgotten.
Twas an eventful day that in Aberdeen
On the subject of Gary Speed - without knowing the full facts, i struggle to have any respect for someone that takes their own life. He's left a wife & 2 children behind, they're the people i feel sorry for.
to feel the need to take your own life , you must be in an extremely dark place , I have every sympathy for him , of course who he's left behind , but if it was suicide things in his life must have been pretty desperate to have to do this .. a friend of mine hung himself , life dealt him an unreal shitty hand , lost so much in his personal life , he felt suicide was his only option .
I'm not denying that its a terrible thing to happen & he was obviously in a very dark place. I also did state that i struggle to have sympathy, not that i didn't have any at all. I also stated that i didn't know all the facts. Has it been confirmed that he had depression?
At the end of the day its all about opinions and my opinion is that nothing is that bad that you need to take your own life, leave your wife without a husband & your kids fatherless. I guess strength of character has a lot to do with it. I've known people that have lost the will to live, been lower than a snakes bollocks, but haven't felt the need to take their own life.
Depression/mental illness is exactly that - an illness. Speed obviously didn't see a way out of whatever trouble he was having. I know you haven't said it but today I've heard people label him a 'coward' for taking his own life. That's complete bollocks and it really grates on me when some people in society extend their sympathy to people with a physical disability or illness yet label people who are going through hard times mentally as 'cowards' or 'weirdos'.
I posted this on OA yesterday , hope it helps "some" understand a lttle more ........ My mum died of a inoperable brain tumour last august and my dad who already had prostate cancer gave up and died in January. Ive got a terminal illness which although I have years rather than months is gonna take me prematurelly . Not suprisingly I have depression , Im also a schitzophrenic . If any of you have properly had depression you will know how painful it is. Ive been Milwall , leeds , Cardiff , *erby , all the bad places with Forest but Ive never been as scared off the places depression takes me too . I can assure anyone reading this , if they say suicide is for cowards ? Ever thought of taking your own life ? It takes some bollocks when you really mean it ......... just as the pain Im gonna suffer when I die is scary , tbh sucide would be alot less painful . Yes Ive concidered it . However long with months of agony and pain , losing weight , loss of personnal respect and dignity , My two poor poor little boys and my missis who will have to watch all this helplessly . Am I a coward ? Am I fuck . Not many fuckers in Nottingham would say it to my face. I got a pm last night which I replied to with this............ I only posted cos I thought it might help the coward section understand matey , I'll tell you , when you have proper depression , not feeling down , its a proper nasty place , ***. its horrible you cant close your eyes to make it go away that makes it worse , you cant turn the t.v. up to make it go away it makes my thoughts worse cos the noise irritates . Honestly it's the deepest darkest shite . You cant stop it , youre shit shit scared . It doesnt go away - bet you get the point mate lol . Its so scary and upsetting mate you cant run away from it , cos it's in your head constanly norring away boring into your head . It makes you so so desperate to make it stop , you'd do anything to get away from the FEAR. S'pose thats when some choose 'arry Carry !
Mate thankyou so much for your support , it really really is appreciated even if you are one of them !lol.
Ads.
P.S. Dont worry about me endin' it Im fuckin shit scared of dying ! LOL !
_________________
Just think before you judge lads.
R.I.P. gary at least your pain has gone. x.
"I live for myself and answer to no one." ~ Steve McQueen. " I wear what I like and I like what I wear." ~ Adam. " It's always been just part of the culture. Growing up, for most working-class kids, is all about football, music and clothes. You might not have much money, but whatever you have got, you're going to look good." ~ Weller.
I posted this on OA yesterday , hope it helps "some" understand a lttle more ........ My mum died of a inoperable brain tumour last august and my dad who already had prostate cancer gave up and died in January. Ive got a terminal illness which although I have years rather than months is gonna take me prematurelly . Not suprisingly I have depression , Im also a schitzophrenic . If any of you have properly had depression you will know how painful it is. Ive been Milwall , leeds , Cardiff , *erby , all the bad places with Forest but Ive never been as scared off the places depression takes me too . I can assure anyone reading this , if they say suicide is for cowards ? Ever thought of taking your own life ? It takes some bollocks when you really mean it ......... just as the pain Im gonna suffer when I die is scary , tbh sucide would be alot less painful . Yes Ive concidered it . However long with months of agony and pain , losing weight , loss of personnal respect and dignity , My two poor poor little boys and my missis who will have to watch all this helplessly . Am I a coward ? Am I fuck . Not many fuckers in Nottingham would say it to my face. I got a pm last night which I replied to with this............ I only posted cos I thought it might help the coward section understand matey , I'll tell you , when you have proper depression , not feeling down , its a proper nasty place , ***. its horrible you cant close your eyes to make it go away that makes it worse , you cant turn the t.v. up to make it go away it makes my thoughts worse cos the noise irritates . Honestly it's the deepest darkest shite . You cant stop it , youre shit shit scared . It doesnt go away - bet you get the point mate lol . Its so scary and upsetting mate you cant run away from it , cos it's in your head constanly norring away boring into your head . It makes you so so desperate to make it stop , you'd do anything to get away from the FEAR. S'pose thats when some choose 'arry Carry !
Mate thankyou so much for your support , it really really is appreciated even if you are one of them !lol.
Ads.
P.S. Dont worry about me endin' it Im fuckin shit scared of dying ! LOL !
_________________
Just think before you judge lads.
R.I.P. gary at least your pain has gone. x.
good post that Adam, and I m sorry to hear that mate..
If you were one of the kids, how would you feel about your Dad hanging himself?
How do you know the kids found him ? surely not because youve read it in the papers ? lol. Read the Beano you'll get more facts ! LOL No matey , joking apart Mate when you are proper in there with depression , not "oh Im depressed !" and your feeling down its bad ever had a irritateing itch you cant get rid of and you'd do anything to get rid of ? Well times the fooker by 100 and you might be getting there........ ever had tooth ache and you cant see the dentist till tomorrow? Well times that cunt by 100 and you might be there........... Ever had someone making a noise when your trying to get too sleep and they cunts wont shut up well times it by 100 and you might be there. Do you get my point? Youd do anything to get rid of that feeling . You think your a hinderense on people a fucking leech sucking off people to try and get back up to a "Normal" level of existence ? Have you ever thought about dieing? I MEAN REALLY deeply thought about dieing???? well "Normal" people can block it out and not think about it , well some (I cant speek for all people- Im not them) cant get it out there heads , It makes you panic like fuck its the most feeling in the world ....... well its nearly as fuckin mind blowing scary/exciting as The old Kent road with the ICF toe to toe in the eighties......... The only difference is with depresion is theres no excitement and it doesnt go away but the FEAR is always there .
It really doesnt help watching Forest at the minute LOL. narr fuck that it's not important , my mental health is tho. GOD FORBID anyone that reads this ends up going to the places I've been (even *erby fans!) cos it's fuckin the most deep and dark dark places imaginable , and the panic and fear is EXTRAordinary ! poor old Gary R.I.P. must of been in worse places than Ive been and that in itself is positively mind blowingly scary I try not to think about it. Ive got the Fear. (I.Brown) and if you havent , good and I fuckin hope with all of me you never do. FACT.
"I live for myself and answer to no one." ~ Steve McQueen. " I wear what I like and I like what I wear." ~ Adam. " It's always been just part of the culture. Growing up, for most working-class kids, is all about football, music and clothes. You might not have much money, but whatever you have got, you're going to look good." ~ Weller.
Appologies , thought you put found not feel ! God Im a mad twat ! ( Oh how true!LOL)
"I live for myself and answer to no one." ~ Steve McQueen. " I wear what I like and I like what I wear." ~ Adam. " It's always been just part of the culture. Growing up, for most working-class kids, is all about football, music and clothes. You might not have much money, but whatever you have got, you're going to look good." ~ Weller.
My wife had bad depression and i had to leave work for 6 months to straiten her out and get her on the right meds, she is a stronger character than most i know and tbh i couldnt understand it , it can happen to anyone and really grabs you hard, i have seen it first hand and now understand it leaves you virtually helpless, if i hadnt helped the wife she would not be alive today the problem was i didnt understand what she was going through , got her in time but many dont ,
Not sure about g speed but can sympathise completely And feel for his family