James McLean the Sunderland player refused to have a poppy on his football top,just wondering if he's the only tosser to do that or are there any other footballers to do that
People died for his choice, nothing wrong if he chooses not to wear one.
I think Im clever but not clever enough to play with the proper lads, not got the brain span to run with decent folk but i keep trying and trying. shame my prospects are shit and I feel low about myself. I will find my own way one day.
Interrupting 2 minutes silence is disrespectful. Burning a poppy is disrespectful. Simply not wearing one isn't disrespectful. If everyone is forced to wear one whatever their personal beliefs, that's tokenism, not 'showing respect'. I remember when folk who chose to, wore their poppy in the week that ran up to Remembrace Sunday and those that didn't were allowed to get on with it in peace. Sad that this issue has been hijacked by some on both sides of the argument.
I think there is a argument if it was a requirement but at the end of the day its about choice, I did find it strange though must admit when saw a footballer wearing one, that's the first season I seen them wear them in a game unless I'm blind
Quote: OFFHand wrote in post #6I think there is a argument if it was a requirement but at the end of the day its about choice, I did find it strange though must admit when saw a footballer wearing one, that's the first season I seen them wear them in a game unless I'm blind
Think it's been going on for a few seasons, but no more than that.
Im sure leicester were one of the first, 2004ish IIRC
Quote: Rtc wrote in post #3People died for his choice, nothing wrong if he chooses not to wear one.
Exactly what i was going to write, They fought for freedom of speech and when he uses what they fought for he gets slagged off.....
Dont know why he's getting all the wrap when O'neill didnt wear one during the game then put one on for the TV cameras and John oshea changed his top at half time !!
Quote: Dempsey wrote in post #1James McLean the Sunderland player refused to have a poppy on his football top,just wondering if he's the only tosser to do that or are there any other footballers to do that
If the British Army had murdered 14 civilians from my home town, I'd probably not fancy wearing a symbol of remembrance for said army. Baffling that this would make him a 'tosser'. Surely it should be a personal choice, as has been mentioned. It's sad that people use it for point scoring or to have a go at people, be it for or against wearing one.
Quote: nefc wrote in post #13^^ i actually forgot to buy one this year. they always fall off anyway and then i really do feel guilty, like i should be saying 'i got one honest!'
I've ended up buying 3 this year because they always fall off. I'll have to get one of those little pin badges next year.
Exactly. No one should feel pressured to wear one. I've visited the mass graves from world war 1 in Belgium & France.. the mood of solemn remembrance is much more in keeping with the respectful way which this should be dealt with.. Not witch hunts for those who choose not to wear one.. An outward display of remembrance doesn't necessarily make it more meaningful.
Quote: Dempsey wrote in post #1James McLean the Sunderland player refused to have a poppy on his football top,just wondering if he's the only tosser to do that or are there any other footballers to do that
If the British Army had murdered 14 civilians from my home town, I'd probably not fancy wearing a symbol of remembrance for said army. Baffling that this would make him a 'tosser'. Surely it should be a personal choice, as has been mentioned. It's sad that people use it for point scoring or to have a go at people, be it for or against wearing one.
The poppy is not a symbol of remembrance for the British army It's a symbol of remembrance for all who gave their lives for us
Quote: Dempsey wrote in post #1James McLean the Sunderland player refused to have a poppy on his football top,just wondering if he's the only tosser to do that or are there any other footballers to do that
If the British Army had murdered 14 civilians from my home town, I'd probably not fancy wearing a symbol of remembrance for said army. Baffling that this would make him a 'tosser'. Surely it should be a personal choice, as has been mentioned. It's sad that people use it for point scoring or to have a go at people, be it for or against wearing one.
^^ then people should respect his decision. it's probably only blowhards on the internet giving him stick anyway, i doubt people are haranguing him in the street
A few years ago no football players wore poppies on their shirts so I'm not sure what all the fuss is about? And of course the irony of anyone getting slated for not wearing one out of choice is staggering. This poppy facism is getting rather sickening.
At work today everyone was talking about this and everyone all said it was a disgrace,and your talking about 20 men ranging from 20 to 60.Oh and Dylan what has your silly question got to do with this topic? As if I don't know what your referring to.
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