planting bombs in public places should of done what the prosecution wanted and put him in front of the firing squad to face his own music....good riddance to him!!
Eye's right, skin back tight, bollocks to the front, we're the boy's who make more noise when we're on the cunt, we're the riders of the night, and we'd rather fuck than fight, we're the riders of the Clock end Highbury
Quote: frank cannon wrote in post #3 planting bombs in public places should of done what the prosecution wanted and put him in front of the firing squad to face his own music....good riddance to him!!
Or, how about putting a tyre around his neck, filling it with petrol and setting it alight!
I am glad people on here mentioned all the shit stuff he done against the zulu incata. I am fed up with people who think he is this lovely man and freed south africa from whites. Dont want to slag off a dead person but people should read books and get to know the facts. His missus aint much better either. If you want black role models read abouthe the slave uprising in Haiti. The first and last succsessful slave uprisng in history.
tbh I think a lot of what really happened , what he and his party were responsible for back in the day , 70's / 80's ? I myself am not really sure , tends to get clouded by recent events , and the vision of this small imprisoned humble man fighting for equality is the only one especially younger people see and know .. Im all for equality , wether it be race / religion / yadda yadda yadda , and I think a lot was achieved by him in that field , but I worked in Angola , Dem Rep of Congo and South Africa , and make no mistake he wasn't this great popular figure amongst all - black included , as for Winnie dig deep and see the shit she did , and got away with .. He has died , so fine , mourn his death , but I find it quite repulsive when you read all the condolunces from public figures and celebrities jumping on the PC bandwagon of how wonderful a man he was .. Know your history ..
Civil War , DRC , emptying into any border that would take them , then Angolan Govt. rounding them up , imprisoning the lucky ones , others were killed , ethnic cleansing ... place was a real blast ... as a whole though the people I worked with were very genuine , very uneducated , extremely poor ...
When you work in these places it sure does make you appreciate what you have , then your kids moan the phone they have isn't the latest model - it really does put things into perspective ...
the using of yadda yadda yadda was because I couldn't be arsed to write sexuality / gender. but I wouldn't expect you to grasp that , a little fuckwit who hasn't left his own town , yet deems to be so worldly wise ..
In the critical moment, the ANC colluded with the white ruling class in order to preserve the old economic order. They agreed not to nationalise the economy and a small minority of black people were integrated into the ruling class. The people were betrayed by the ANC and Mandela.
you are a sad bitter and mistaken old man steve. regardless of any trips abroad i'm currently living in a city which isnt my home town, shock horror. (not that its anything to shout about either mind)
good night
reached for the secret too soon, cried for the moon.
For those of you who missed my somewhat sarcastic post, this paragraph taken from above might help you understand it better.
Mandela’s ex-wife Winnie, also a longtime ANC activist, prefers a method called “necklacing,” where a gasoline-filled tire is placed around the neck of a victim and set ablaze. “With our boxes of matches and our necklaces we shall liberate this country,” she is infamous for saying.
Quote: SAFCBeaufort wrote in post #15you are a sad bitter and mistaken old man steve. regardless of any trips abroad i'm currently living in a city which isnt my home town, shock horror. (not that its anything to shout about either mind)
good night
you can not argue with simple fact...mandella was a convicted terrorist.... and you might say fair play to him not wanting his own country to be run by whites ... but talking hypoth tically wonder what would Cameron and the rest of his arse lickers response would be if we had an Englishman do the same in England in years to come??
Quote: SAFCBeaufort wrote in post #15you are a sad bitter and mistaken old man steve. regardless of any trips abroad i'm currently living in a city which isnt my home town, shock horror. (not that its anything to shout about either mind)
good night
Sheffield isn't it ? I had a pm off Ja a while back , told me about a night out , forum type meet , where you either got a smack in the mouth , or told to go to your bed before you got a smack , 'cause you're a little gobshite .. I see nothing's changed ..
Quote: SAFCBeaufort wrote in post #15you are a sad bitter and mistaken old man steve. regardless of any trips abroad i'm currently living in a city which isnt my home town, shock horror. (not that its anything to shout about either mind)
good night
Sheffield isn't it ? I had a pm off Ja a while back , told me about a night out , forum type meet , where you either got a smack in the mouth , or told to go to your bed before you got a smack , 'cause you're a little gobshite .. I see nothing's changed ..
talking utter shite steve
reached for the secret too soon, cried for the moon.
Quote: get the beer in wrote in post #19Here's a picture to make your toes curl!
See that's where Mandela went wrong. He didn't realise he could have denied ever being in the ANC and still been took by the hand on the world stage as a peace maker. Rookie mistake....
"The nightmares invading the sleep of Bayern fans involve four horsemen of the Champions League Apocalypse riding towards them. As the faces come into focus, they will recognise Frank Lampard, Cole, Petr Cech and Drogba. All were immense..."
Quote: anth mcbay wrote in post #20didnt he(mandela)not support them, told them not to put down there arms, or is that bollocks like adams not being in the i.r.a
Easy on Anth. You can't go accusing Gerry of having been a provo. That's slander. There's no proof....apart from umpteen books written by republicans. And minutes of meetings between the ira and the government....and him carrying coffins and speaking at republican funerals and get togethers.....and... well he says he wasn't and we just have to believe him ....
"The nightmares invading the sleep of Bayern fans involve four horsemen of the Champions League Apocalypse riding towards them. As the faces come into focus, they will recognise Frank Lampard, Cole, Petr Cech and Drogba. All were immense..."