Quote: L.J wrote in post #12Hahah imagine trying to use logical to support a 30% tax on all.
Can't believe these freaks have any support.
Well, a hell of a lot of the population must be freaks!
It's not racist to have concerns of overcrowding in schools, the NHS being on the brink of collapse and lack of housing. It may or may not be a protest vote, but its a kick in the bollocks to the Politicians who have ignored the silent majority's concern's for too long!
Is the correct answer....all the others have done is talk talk talk....FOR YEARS
oh, they've done MUCH WORSE than talk, Paul.....
Blair or Mandelson and you've one bullet? There's a debate to put the hours in on a slow day in work.....
"The nightmares invading the sleep of Bayern fans involve four horsemen of the Champions League Apocalypse riding towards them. As the faces come into focus, they will recognise Frank Lampard, Cole, Petr Cech and Drogba. All were immense..."
Quote: Tone wrote in post #30Just lifted this off Sky news, you couldn't make it up!
Former prime minister Tony Blair has taken a swipe at UKIP, saying beneath the facade lurks something "pretty nasty and unpleasant".
"The nightmares invading the sleep of Bayern fans involve four horsemen of the Champions League Apocalypse riding towards them. As the faces come into focus, they will recognise Frank Lampard, Cole, Petr Cech and Drogba. All were immense..."
UKIP is a protest vote. 8/10 UKIP voters want the energy companies nationalised, 3/4 want the railways nationalised, 84% want to keep the NHS public, and 2/3 want a substantial increase in the minimum wage.
Labour would be well ahead if they adopted a bold programme. It has nothing to do with the personality of Miliband, it's the fact they are not offering an alternative.
Quote: nothavinit wrote in post #36UKIP is a protest vote. 8/10 UKIP voters want the energy companies nationalised, 3/4 want the railways nationalised, 84% want to keep the NHS public, and 2/3 want a substantial increase in the minimum wage.
Labour would be well ahead if they adopted a bold programme. It has nothing to do with the personality of Miliband, it's the fact they are not offering an alternative.
In fairness to Milliband he has proposed gradual nationalisation of the railways and a substantial increase in the minimum wage (not to mention an end to the ongoing reorganisation of the NHS). I think one of the major issues is that politics is so poorly reported on in this country and so many people genuinely believe there's no difference between the platforms offered by each party.
Out of interest, where are those stats from? The one re: energy is extremely interesting.
There isn't a significant difference in terms of policy. Labour would have privatised Royal Mail. They didn't reverse the NHS 'reforms' introduced by the Tories. They didn't reverse anti-Trade Union laws. They haven't called for zero-hour contracts to be banned. They haven't actually called for a living wage. They intended to impose the same austerity programme in a more gradual fashion.
Quote: clyde wrote in post #37Very true Glenn... That's a fine topic of debate indeed..... Couldn't you just push their heads together and do them both :-)
good idea. Double barrel shotgun......
"The nightmares invading the sleep of Bayern fans involve four horsemen of the Champions League Apocalypse riding towards them. As the faces come into focus, they will recognise Frank Lampard, Cole, Petr Cech and Drogba. All were immense..."
seriously, this cunt is beyond belief. ‘I’ve always said you have to have proper controls in place on immigration,’ Mr Blair intoned, unchallenged.
we're all absolute mugs. Irony is that I'm quoting a paper when in fact, Blair particularly has exposed that the MSM are nothing more than a front for corrupt cunts. Feed the masses bullshit and they'll swallow it if its hammered home. Laughable interviews.....how come no-one will badger the fucker to show that he issued a 100 year D Notice for Operation Ore to protect his nonce cunt mates.
"The nightmares invading the sleep of Bayern fans involve four horsemen of the Champions League Apocalypse riding towards them. As the faces come into focus, they will recognise Frank Lampard, Cole, Petr Cech and Drogba. All were immense..."
Quote: RamseesCFC wrote in post #42Laughable interviews.....how come no-one will badger the fucker to show that he issued a 100 year D Notice for Operation Ore to protect his nonce cunt mates.
As loathsome as Blair is the whole Ore D notice is nothing more than urban myth, D Notice is largely a voluntary agreement with the press and has no time limit, they are un-enforceable against the foreign press. Potential war criminal yes, protector of kiddie fiddlers no.
Quote: RamseesCFC wrote in post #42Laughable interviews.....how come no-one will badger the fucker to show that he issued a 100 year D Notice for Operation Ore to protect his nonce cunt mates.
As loathsome as Blair is the whole Ore D notice is nothing more than urban myth, D Notice is largely a voluntary agreement with the press and has no time limit, they are un-enforceable against the foreign press. Potential war criminal yes, protector of kiddie fiddlers no.
There's not a chance the press association would go against it. And given how deep Blair was in with Murdock/phone tapping/etc..... the press are complicit in plenty.
You seriously don't believe Blair would protect nonces? i.e There's no labour equivalents of Cyril Smyth knocking around? Couldn't disagree more. How deep was Saville buried in the Establishment and no-one was for outing him. And that's all on public record now. There's plenty buried that won't come to the surface - at least not until the name in question dies, and then everyone can feign 'shock horror, we didn't know.....'.
"The nightmares invading the sleep of Bayern fans involve four horsemen of the Champions League Apocalypse riding towards them. As the faces come into focus, they will recognise Frank Lampard, Cole, Petr Cech and Drogba. All were immense..."
I was making a pedantic point around D notices, they have no 100 year rule which I suspect your confusing with departmental releases of sensitive documents.
Quote: Andyb wrote in post #46I was making a pedantic point around D notices, they have no 100 year rule which I suspect your confusing with departmental releases of sensitive documents.
apologies- point taken mate. these cunts just wind me up no end
"The nightmares invading the sleep of Bayern fans involve four horsemen of the Champions League Apocalypse riding towards them. As the faces come into focus, they will recognise Frank Lampard, Cole, Petr Cech and Drogba. All were immense..."
The establishment is full of sick twisted psychopaths, that is why they will lie through there back teeth, cover up child molestation done by others who are part of the establishment and have no sympathy whatsoever for those in need.
While British Prime Minister Tony Blair is under criminal suspicion in the “honours-for-cash” scandal that has rocked his Labour government, we have been told that there is an even more explosive scandal that Blair, up to now, has managed to hide behind the draconian British policy of issuing “D-Notices,” government orders that prohibit the British media from reporting on certain “national security” cases.
In 1999, an international investigation of child pornographers and paedophiles run by Britain’s National Criminal Intelligence Service, code named Operation Ore, resulted in 7,250 suspects being identified in the United Kingdom alone. Some 1850 people were criminally charged in the case and there were 1451 convictions. Almost 500 people were interviewed “under caution” by police, meaning they were suspects. Some 900 individuals remain under investigation. In early 2003, British police began to close in on some top suspects in the Operation Ore investigation, including senior members of Blair’s government.
However, Blair issued a D-Notice, resulting in a gag order on the press from publishing any details of the investigation. Blair cited the impending war in Iraq as a reason for the D-Notice. Police also discovered links between British Labour government paedophile suspects and the trafficking of children for purposes of prostitution from Belgium and Portugal (including young boys from the Casa Pia orphanage in Portugal).
Tony Blair: stifling investigations of paedophiles in his Labour government.
In the United States, Operation Ore’s counterpart was Operation Avalanche. However, U.S. authorities only charged 100 people out of 35,000 investigated. The international paedophile investigation began when Dallas police and the US Postal Inspection Service raided the offices of Landslide Productions of Fort Worth, Texas and confiscated records on thousands of people around the world who were child pornography customers of the firm. Landslide’s halcyon days as a Fort Worth-based international online marketplace of kiddie porn was during the term of Texas Governor George W. Bush.
WMR has learned that the Bush administration, like that of Blair, is rife with paedophiles in top positions. The paedophile network also extends to the U.S. defense industry, particularly some of the companies that have been involved in the sexual abuse of minors at overt and covert U.S. prisons in Abu Ghraib, Iraq; Guantanamo, Kosovo, Afghanistan, Thailand, and now, at three prisons in Ethiopia.
Source: Wayne Madsen
‘commons clerk on trial after IT find thousands of images of children performing sexual acts’
Tony Blair’s closest confidante’s is a practising paedophile, are even suggesting that this particular scandal, and not Blair’s repeated lies and fabricated reports in regard to Iraq, may well prove the downfall of a government mired in sleaze and corruption.
The Sunday Times is reported to have obtained an FBI list of Labour MPs who have used credit cards to pay for internet child pornography, and Blair has responded by imposing a massive news blackout, failing however to stop the arrest of one of his most important aides, Phillip Lyon.
Lyon used his computer “to pursue his interest and perhaps curiosity in this type of material. He searched for it on the internet and, when found, downloaded it for his delectation later”, said Ms Karmy-Jones.
Lyon, 38, from Stanford le Hope in Essex, denies 12 specimen charges of making an indecent image of a child between October 2001 and April 2002. “It is like a drug, you try one and you want to try something harder, and it has a snowball effect,” he is alleged to have told officers when arrested.
Lyonworked in the Upper Table Office, where he met MPs, the Speaker, and Deputy Speaker while checking parliamentary questions and administering early day motions. “He needed skills in computing and the internet,” said Ms Karmy-Jones. “He is an intelligent individual, and knew full well what he was doing.” When first interviewed, he allegedly told police he did not distribute material – “I just look at pictures.”
Ms Karmy-Jones told jurors: “This case is about child pornography – what others might call photos of child abuse. When I say child abuse, it may sound harsh, but it is the nature of these images which is central to the case. They are unpleasant and disturbing.”
She said the issue might be whether it was Lyon who downloaded the images. “We say it is clear he was that man.”
Under Blair’s government paedophiles get off with a slap on the wrist and never seem to suffer the full weight of the law – no shock there then!
There is a lot more here that is being exposed. We already know about Lord George Robertson’s (ex UK Defence Secretary 1997/98 and Sec Gen of Nato) links with Thomas Hamilton (Dunblane), procurer of young boys and a massive British establishment cover up.
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