RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich

#76 | RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich datum

Thu May 23, 2013 3:11 pm

Quote: nothavinit wrote in post #74
I see Leonard is abusing members again. I thought abuse wasn't tolerated on this forum...

Even mackems ??

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#77 | RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich datum

Thu May 23, 2013 3:14 pm

What do you mean again ??? Anyway fuck off ,this thread isn't about me it's about the poor soldier. Last I'm saying on the subject!

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#78 | RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich datum

Thu May 23, 2013 3:58 pm

Quote: SAFCBeaufort wrote in post #66

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/d...Afghan-boy.html
is that man representative of the british community or the british army?
No, I didn't think so, may I suggest you attempt to use the same 'rational' thought elsewhere.

Nope, might be missing something here, but can't see what that has to do with the slaughter of a innocent young man , in broad daylight, on the streets of this country!

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#79 | RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich datum

Thu May 23, 2013 4:11 pm

What happened in Woolwich yesterday was terrible but what was just as bad was the publics reaction to it this board included.

As soon as someone is branded a "terrorist" people use it as an excuse to be racist. Facebook and Twitter was full of the usual "send them all home" comments when it turns out the 2 killers where both born and bread in England.

This wasnt a racially or even religiously motivated attack. Islam is not about killing in the name of Allah it is actually a very peaceful religion which gives a code of conduct for Muslims to follow so that they can lead a good life.

Dont let these killers win by turning it into something its not.

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#80 | RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich datum

Thu May 23, 2013 4:16 pm

Quote: Macca wrote in post #79
What happened in Woolwich yesterday was terrible but what was just as bad was the publics reaction to it this board included.

As soon as someone is branded a "terrorist" people use it as an excuse to be racist. Facebook and Twitter was full of the usual "send them all home" comments when it turns out the 2 killers where both born and bread in England.

This wasnt a racially or even religiously motivated attack. Islam is not about killing in the name of Allah it is actually a very peaceful religion which gives a code of conduct for Muslims to follow so that they can lead a good life.

Dont let these killers win by turning it into something its not.

"What happened in Woolwich yesterday was terrible [u]but what was just as bad [/u]was the publics reaction to it this board included"

Are you sure?????????? you seriously need to give your head a wobble if you really believe that statement.

"The nightmares invading the sleep of Bayern fans involve four horsemen of the Champions League Apocalypse riding towards them. As the faces come into focus, they will recognise Frank Lampard, Cole, Petr Cech and Drogba. All were immense..."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT59cSh-VpQ

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#81 | RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich datum

Thu May 23, 2013 4:18 pm

^^ I also thought that was a bizarre thing to say

Angelo Urrutia gone Amish

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#82 | RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich datum

Thu May 23, 2013 4:23 pm (Last edited: Thu May 23, 2013 4:24 pm)

Yes these 2 killers knew exactly what they where doing by letting people film them. They wanted to cause as much outage as possible and if it escalates in the way they want then it wont be the last of it and even more innocent people will be killed.

Open your eyes and dont let them win they where clearly looking for a reaction and a public outcry and they got it.

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#83 | RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich datum

Thu May 23, 2013 4:26 pm

Quote: Macca wrote in post #79
What happened in Woolwich yesterday was terrible but what was just as bad was the publics reaction to it this board included.

As soon as someone is branded a "terrorist" people use it as an excuse to be racist. Facebook and Twitter was full of the usual "send them all home" comments when it turns out the 2 killers where both born and bread in England.

This wasnt a racially or even religiously motivated attack. Islam is not about killing in the name of Allah it is actually a very peaceful religion which gives a code of conduct for Muslims to follow so that they can lead a good life.

Dont let these killers win by turning it into something its not.

Are you aware that nearly 40% of young British Muslims believe that homosexuals should be executed. The number rises concerning whether Apostates should be killed. If that constitutes a peaceful religion then fair enough.

If a fascist kills someone it is fascicm.
If a racist kills someone it is racism.
If a Muslim kills someone in the name of Islam it is fuck all to do with his religion.

Now, in no way am I tarring all Muslims with the same brush, that'd be idiotic but there IS a problem in the Muslim cpmmunity and it needs addressing. To continue to say it has nothing to do with Islam is getting us nowhere.

I'd love to wear a rainbow every day.

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#84 | RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich datum

Thu May 23, 2013 4:29 pm

Quote: SAFCBeaufort wrote in post #66

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/d...Afghan-boy.html
is that man representative of the british community or the british army?
No, I didn't think so, may I suggest you attempt to use the same 'rational' thought elsewhere.

how can you compare that with a nutjob brainwashed muslim convert??
have you ever been a soldier, seen what they go through in a warzone, what they see day in day out.

I see the mags are doing there usual name calling again. yawn yawn.

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#85 | RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich datum

Thu May 23, 2013 4:29 pm

I would be very surprised if these 2 nutters where practicing Muslims they have clearly used it as an excuse to try and justify their actions.

40% think homosexuals should be executed where did you get that figure from ?

I dont know any Muslims that have exteremist views like that not any true Muslims anyway.

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#86 | RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich datum

Thu May 23, 2013 4:35 pm

Quote: Macca wrote in post #79
What happened in Woolwich yesterday was terrible but what was just as bad was the publics reaction to it this board included.

As soon as someone is branded a "terrorist" people use it as an excuse to be racist. Facebook and Twitter was full of the usual "send them all home" comments when it turns out the 2 killers where both born and bread in England.

This wasnt a racially or even religiously motivated attack. Islam is not about killing in the name of Allah it is actually a very peaceful religion which gives a code of conduct for Muslims to follow so that they can lead a good life.

Dont let these killers win by turning it into something its not.

People's reaction is just as bad as what happened ??? Are you completely fucking deranged ??

Forum Luddite

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#87 | RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich datum

Thu May 23, 2013 4:40 pm

Quote: Macca wrote in post #85
I would be very surprised if these 2 nutters where practicing Muslims they have clearly used it as an excuse to try and justify their actions.

40% think homosexuals should be executed where did you get that figure from ?

I dont know any Muslims that have exteremist views like that not any true Muslims anyway.

I remember seeing a poll about it somewhere. Interesting that you never mentioned the Apostate views in your answer. Why does this 'proper Muslim' line keep being said? If a bigger proportion of Muslims believe homosexuals should be killed than the rest of the population what else is it that has influenced just the Muslims and no one else?

Some poll results here but I can't find the results on the homosexual question.

http://my.telegraph.co.uk/danielpycock/d...hink-of-the-uk/

I'd love to wear a rainbow every day.

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#88 | RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich datum

Thu May 23, 2013 4:46 pm

Quote: Macca wrote in post #82
Yes these 2 killers knew exactly what they where doing by letting people film them. They wanted to cause as much outage as possible and if it escalates in the way they want then it wont be the last of it and even more innocent people will be killed.

Open your eyes and dont let them win they where clearly looking for a reaction and a public outcry and they got it.

You equated peoples reaction including on this board (prodominately words then...) as being as bad to a man being beheaded in the street. Read it back. Now, surely I don't need to go on.

I'm well aware they were looking for a reaction. What may or may not happen down the road and its relation to this is purely heresay and speculation at this point. I don't see anything that's worth equating to what happened yesterday.

And instead of lambasting people who were spouting all sorts on social media and the likes (sense or nonsense depending on your views) open your own eyes and have a look and think about why people are reacting in this way. Perhaps if people had a sense that the government had control of this growing 'area' of security risk, then perhaps the nation would be less inclined to go hysterical. But then again, a man was butchered in broad daylight in Britain in 2013 and the cunts stood an filmed their advert afterwards. I'd say that's something that would get most people hysterical with rage - well, perhaps aside from those that aren't sympathetic to the butchering of British soldiers....

"The nightmares invading the sleep of Bayern fans involve four horsemen of the Champions League Apocalypse riding towards them. As the faces come into focus, they will recognise Frank Lampard, Cole, Petr Cech and Drogba. All were immense..."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT59cSh-VpQ

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#89 | RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich datum

Thu May 23, 2013 4:48 pm

I would imagine the poll doesnt exist thats why

I would be interested in how many Muslims are asked for their views in these polls as well as it doesnt mention that for all we know they could have asked 100 Muslims all from the same area its not like they have a census and ask everyone.

Polls and statistics can be very dangerous as the figures can be used in different ways depending on what result the people conducting them are looking for.

I could make a poll of all the Muslims I know and I can gurentee you 100% of them would be against homophobic people being executed because of their sexually.

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#90 | RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich datum

Thu May 23, 2013 5:05 pm

Quote: Macca wrote in post #85
I would be very surprised if these 2 nutters where practicing Muslims they have clearly used it as an excuse to try and justify their actions.

40% think homosexuals should be executed where did you get that figure from ?

I dont know any Muslims that have exteremist views like that not any true Muslims anyway.

I was only thinking 2 days back about the increase of Ugandans claiming asylum due to them being gay and not being able to go to Uganda due to them being killed.
And it's a majority Christian Country where Gays are persecuted, killed and most Christians do not eat pork.

"The biggest problem with the dollar is that it is not large enough, nor is it two ply."
https://www.newchartistmovement.org.uk

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#91 | RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich datum

Thu May 23, 2013 5:12 pm

The solider has a son of 2 also,it makes this even more sad

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#92 | RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich datum

Thu May 23, 2013 5:16 pm

Quote: Macca wrote in post #89
I would imagine the poll doesnt exist thats why

I would be interested in how many Muslims are asked for their views in these polls as well as it doesnt mention that for all we know they could have asked 100 Muslims all from the same area its not like they have a census and ask everyone.

Polls and statistics can be very dangerous as the figures can be used in different ways depending on what result the people conducting them are looking for.

I could make a poll of all the Muslims I know and I can gurentee you 100% of them would be against homophobic people being executed because of their sexually.

There are numerous polls of British Muslims where a large number would like to see Sharia law being implemented in the UK. To totally disregard these polls is ridiculous. Sharia law states that homosexuality is punishable by anything including death.

I'd love to wear a rainbow every day.

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#93 | RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich datum

Thu May 23, 2013 5:22 pm

Quote: Vasque wrote in post #92
Quote: Macca wrote in post #89
I would imagine the poll doesnt exist thats why

I would be interested in how many Muslims are asked for their views in these polls as well as it doesnt mention that for all we know they could have asked 100 Muslims all from the same area its not like they have a census and ask everyone.

Polls and statistics can be very dangerous as the figures can be used in different ways depending on what result the people conducting them are looking for.

I could make a poll of all the Muslims I know and I can gurentee you 100% of them would be against homophobic people being executed because of their sexually.

There are numerous polls of British Muslims where a large number would like to see Sharia law being implemented in the UK. To totally disregard these polls is ridiculous. Sharia law states that homosexuality is punishable by anything including death.

There are already Sharia Courts here that deal with Marraige, Divorce and Inheritance issues.
Just like the Jewish community have their own courts that deal with similar issues.
The ruling on homosexuality is not applicable in the UK or any other land that is not a muslim country.
I'm sure that that info is not on the EDL website.

"The biggest problem with the dollar is that it is not large enough, nor is it two ply."
https://www.newchartistmovement.org.uk

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#94 | RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich datum

Thu May 23, 2013 5:25 pm

Quote: muskamber wrote in post #90
Quote: Macca wrote in post #85
I would be very surprised if these 2 nutters where practicing Muslims they have clearly used it as an excuse to try and justify their actions.

40% think homosexuals should be executed where did you get that figure from ?

I dont know any Muslims that have exteremist views like that not any true Muslims anyway.

I was only thinking 2 days back about the increase of Ugandans claiming asylum due to them being gay and not being able to go to Uganda due to them being killed.
And it's a majority Christian Country where Gays are persecuted, killed and most Christians do not eat pork.

You don't really believe that story? do you not think their using that story as a way of gaining entry?

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#95 | RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich datum

Thu May 23, 2013 5:33 pm (Last edited: Thu May 23, 2013 5:40 pm)

Quote: get the beer in wrote in post #94
Quote: muskamber wrote in post #90
Quote: Macca wrote in post #85
I would be very surprised if these 2 nutters where practicing Muslims they have clearly used it as an excuse to try and justify their actions.

40% think homosexuals should be executed where did you get that figure from ?

I dont know any Muslims that have exteremist views like that not any true Muslims anyway.

I was only thinking 2 days back about the increase of Ugandans claiming asylum due to them being gay and not being able to go to Uganda due to them being killed.
And it's a majority Christian Country where Gays are persecuted, killed and most Christians do not eat pork.

You don't really believe that story? do you not think their using that story as a way of gaining entry?

Not a story, been Uganda twice in the past few years, can not openly say you are gay there or your finished.
Also live in an area where there is a Ugandan community.
My friend has an internet shop where people come in and use fax and copier service.
Seen documantation once for a asylum aplication based on them being gay hence the aplication.

And as you said saying they are gay is being used by some to claim asylem.

"The biggest problem with the dollar is that it is not large enough, nor is it two ply."
https://www.newchartistmovement.org.uk

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#96 | RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich datum

Thu May 23, 2013 5:40 pm

Quote: muskamber wrote in post #95
Quote: get the beer in wrote in post #94
Quote: muskamber wrote in post #90
Quote: Macca wrote in post #85
I would be very surprised if these 2 nutters where practicing Muslims they have clearly used it as an excuse to try and justify their actions.

40% think homosexuals should be executed where did you get that figure from ?

I dont know any Muslims that have exteremist views like that not any true Muslims anyway.

I was only thinking 2 days back about the increase of Ugandans claiming asylum due to them being gay and not being able to go to Uganda due to them being killed.
And it's a majority Christian Country where Gays are persecuted, killed and most Christians do not eat pork.

You don't really believe that story? do you not think their using that story as a way of gaining entry?

Not a story, been Uganda twice in the past few years, can not openly say you are gay there or your finished.
Also live in an area where there is a Ugandan community.
My friend has an internet shop where people come in and use fax and copier service.
Seen documantation once for a asylum aplication based on them being gay hence the aplication.

Read my post again, it was a piss-take!

Having said that, I'll bet my bollocks your local Ugandan friendly Post Office has a rack full of ready made application forms.

Anyway, this has nothing to do with the thread!

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#97 | RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich datum

Thu May 23, 2013 5:41 pm

it's funny ive never seen those union jack spectacles on the what you are wearing today thread

reached for the secret too soon, cried for the moon.

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#98 | RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich datum

Thu May 23, 2013 5:45 pm

Got everything to do with it when it went down the route of muslims saying gays should be killed.
And miss information about Muslims wanting Sharia Law implemented in UK.

"The biggest problem with the dollar is that it is not large enough, nor is it two ply."
https://www.newchartistmovement.org.uk

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#99 | RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich datum

Thu May 23, 2013 5:47 pm

Quote: SAFCBeaufort wrote in post #97
it's funny ive never seen those union jack spectacles on the what you are wearing today thread

I wouldn't expect you to in your rose tinted blinkered glasses!

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#100 | RE: Soldier killed in Woolwich datum

Thu May 23, 2013 5:48 pm

the irony.

reached for the secret too soon, cried for the moon.

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